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My name is Eva Mitnick. I am the director of the Engagement \u0026 Learning Division at the LA Public Library. And today I have the honor to interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=0.48,9.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Teri Markson, formerly Senior Librarian at LA Public Library. 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What led you to LAPL?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=18.4,35.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e I had worked in libraries as a college student and it just seemed like a good road to take. And honestly, I initially was thinking of being an art librarian because I had a background in design and a degree in design. But getting a job as an art librarian was a little difficult. And I decided to go into public librarianship when my older daughter, who's you know now 38, almost 39, well when she was like two, I decided to become a librarian. And while I was in library school, I loved the children's books so much, I decided to try to be a children's librarian. So I kind of focused on that while I was in school. And then while... Interesting,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=38.56,100.67"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e it wasn't in school that you decided to be a children's librarian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=100.67,103.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I actually interviewed at the Getty all those many years ago, because I did work in an art library while my ex husband was in graduate school at UC Davis. So, I had some background in art librarianship and that's why I kind of thought, oh, you know, I was a library assistant, but I was running that library. And so I went to interview at the Getty. They were like, we need you to speak, you know, three languages. And, you know, we're going to pay you almost nothing. Want a job? Just like, you know what? Yeah, This isn't working. So that's when I decided to go back to school and get my Master's and become a real librarian. And it was very fortunate because unfortunately while I was in school my home life kind of imploded so then I really needed that degree. So I was very grateful to come out of library school with now two children. And I was then single and felt very lucky to get a job with LA Public Library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=105.82,178.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e And tell me about your first job with LA Public Library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=179.5,183.675"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, as Eva well knows, my first job, and I was actually offered two positions. One was full time and I think it was at Venice and the other was half-time at West LA Regional, but because I still needed time at home. So I was the halftime children's librarian. You, Eva, were the full-time children's librarian. And Anne Conner was our Senior. And it was fun. There was a lot to learn. But I was there for seven years. And I went from the half-time librarian to, Well, they dropped the half-time position when you left. Yeah. And I got the full-time position. I was very grateful for that, too. So I was the full-time children's librarian at West LA for a number of years. And we did some amazing things there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=184.66,257.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e We did. We had LeVar Burton there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=257.72,260.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e I was talking just a few days ago with my mom about Gregory Peck being there. And Charlton Heston. Those Night of a Thousand Stars things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=262.26,272.82"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, the Night of a Thousand Stars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=272.84,274.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, and I don't know if you remember or if you were there, but, There was a book. My God, no, I can't think of the name of it. It was a children's book where the child in it says, \"I'm not a whatever, I'm Hannah.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=275.74,292.875"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I remember that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=293.36,294.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e \"Mommy Doesn't Know My Name\" or something. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=296.98,299.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e because she's calling her, \"Sugarplum\" or \"Pumpkin\" or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=299.06,302.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to do an intro story before Charlton Heston, so I just had Hannah come up with me. 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I know and I felt like Charlton Heston has nothing on us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=324.22,329.226"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Totally. That's so cool. And by the way, I don't know if it's my wifi, or yours, but. You keep freezing, am I freezing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=330.62,341.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I froze too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=342.56,344.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Yeah, I don't I don't know. We can, we can try turning off video if it seems like it's going to work, but let's, let's see how we get how we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=344.54,352.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so, Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=353.04,354.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e it is. And so West LA, it's quite, quite a place. We had a really eccentric and amazing staff, some of which were borrowed from Central Library because it was after the Fire. Oh, I should ask you, well, you know, you weren't around when the Fire happened, it was just the aftermath of the Fire. But what are your memories of, let's start with your memories of. West LA during the sort of, early 90s years. Late late 80s, early 90s...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=354.4,390.547"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e And I think about all of the, yeah, because I started in 89. So there was a lot of transition going on, you know, because when I started, remember the postcards, like, for holds and the microfilm, all that stuff. How we had to, um. You know, at some point we transitioned to computers, which was huge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=390.92,419.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I mean, we got the, we got the catalog, at a certain point sometime in the early 90s on CD-ROMs. They had to keep sending us updated CD-ROMs, you know, with the catalog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=420.66,431.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't remember that, but I do remember, I do remember, you know, learning how to use the computer and and now when I think about it, it's like. 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And people paid 50 cents for a post. Free. Oh, no, yeah, Again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=459.18,471.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I know you just froze. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=471.34,472.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know if you can hear me. Yeah, so initially, yes, I remember it being. 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I remember going to a class visit and mispronouncing some singers name. And the kids are just like, looking at me like. 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Another person who went on to run things. So Cheryl was the senior. And actually, Elizabeth Morgan had come back as the children's but she wasn't well and so in a very short you know number of months she ended up leaving and I became the children's librarian. So I wasn't a YA librarian for very long, just a couple of months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=742.92,776.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e How long were you at Robertson altogether?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=779.02,780.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e I want to say maybe two and a half years. Because I was at West LA seven and a half years and I was at Robertson 2 and a half years because I just remember when I. When I left for my next job, I, I had been in the system for 10 years. So yeah, Robertson was, it was an interesting experience. One of the things I remember very, well, not fondly, But I'm sure most of the staff felt this way was the way that they, we had, we had this reservation system for the computers, because now there were public computers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=781.7,821.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=822.04,823.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, my gosh, it was awful. 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It wasn't fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=870.82,873.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e We had to sign them up by hand. Yeah, first name last initial Yeah We knew every patrons name though, you know, it's George G, Bob F.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=874.54,889.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And it's funny, because, you know, the building was really considered like this gem of a building when it opened. And Steve Ehrlich, the architect, got a lot of kudos for that building. I am the daughter of an architect, so I felt differently about the building. I thought a lot of it didn't make sense, how the, like how the staff room, you know, the staff office was separated from the Senior's office by a corridor. Yeah, and then the classrooms were separated from the workroom. So you always wanted to have that key on your wrist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=890.38,939.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e And then the community room was down on the bottom. 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Just one of my favorite stories about Robertson, maybe. I remember being there on Saturday and Steve Ehrlich, he used to bring students to come see this building. And I guess architecture students. And so he's standing in the lobby yakking with his students. 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I just went down there and said, \"Excuse me, would you mind lowering your voice a little? Because the noise carries in this building.\" I knew who I was talking to. I knew I was talking to the architect. But by that point, I'd been there a little while, and I didn't care. Because I thought, you know, you made some bad choices, dude.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1003.48,1035.839"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yep. It's what happens when you're a celebrity architect and you don't listen to the actual people that work there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1036.42,1043.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. And that's how I felt about that building. I was like, what a shame. You know, they could have made some different choices. Anyway, from there, if you want me to keep going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1044.52,1057.187"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah let's continue on the course of your career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1057.54,1060.821"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so by that time my younger daughter was you know getting too old for aftercare and I was ready for a change and I heard about a job at a Jewish day school. A librarian job, and I decided to apply for that. So I could be on more of a school calendar. Didn't have to work nights didn't have to work weekends. Got the Jewish holidays off too. So, after my 10 years, I left. Oh, and I, I just want to mention, though, that all this time, or most of this time. I was very fortunate that when I went from half-time at West LA to full-time, Eda White, who was, I don't know if she was president of the Union then, or I don't remember what her position was, but she had been around a long time, suggested to me to go on a 72 hour pay period, which would give me one extra day off every two weeks. And I ended up doing that and I was able to arrange my schedule so that I had one weekday off every week. And it made a huge difference in the life of my working life and my home life with my kids. I was a single parent and it was hard. But this way the kids always knew that I was home at least one weekday. And so I did that the whole, that whole 10 years. But then when I left, it was, you know, no nights, no weekends. But then again, I got amazing advice, which was don't leave. Don't leave the system. Become a sub. That way you can come back without going through the whole civil service procedure again. So again, that was incredibly helpful because I knew I'd come back. Like when my kids were older, I always figured I'd come back. So yeah, so I became a day school, Jewish day school librarian for six full years. And, but in the meantime, excuse me, I subbed during the summers, I subbed in InfoNow mostly. And I also subbed at Beverly Hills Public Library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1061.16,1227.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1227.98,1228.82"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e I have a tickle in my throat, so pardon me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1231.12,1233.84"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e No worries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1234.28,1235.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe we can cut this part. Um, for those years that I was a school librarian, I honestly loved it. It was a whole different way of being a librarian. I knew the children very well. I taught the children library skills. And I just thought it was really fun and it just it just felt more personal. So, I was very happy to have had that experience. But when Hannah was 16, you know, turning 16. I knew it was time to try to come back to LAPL. And I got, again, I've gotten such good advice in my career. Anne Connor said to me, don't apply for anything that you don't really want. Because if they offer it to you and you turn it down, your name is mud. I don't know if you remember that kind of advice. And I don't know if that's still true, but-so, you know, I started checking out positions and I wasn't, I just wasn't seeing something I wanted until I saw an opening for a second children, full-time children's librarian at Fairfax, which was just also had just been rebuilt and was gonna be opening in a number of months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1235.86,1340.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1340.42,1340.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e And I almost didn't believe it was an act- I thought it was a error. And I called Anne and I was like, is this for real, this position? Because I would love to do that. So I was very lucky and I got that position. It was a second children's, there were two full-time children's librarians at Fairfax for a while. And I got - because I had already had the experience of opening a new branch, you know, I got there and that was what we did for the first couple of months was get the branch ready to open.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1342.08,1379.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e And what does that entail exactly?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1380.48,1382.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's, you know, it's like receiving back the books that have been taken out that and then weeding them. They didn't do any weeding when they packed up these branches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1383.54,1395.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1396.24,1396.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you'd open the boxes and you'd be like, no. You'd take, you'd keep some stuff but you'd get rid of other stuff. So you had to go through like an entire collection. What to keep And then organizing the collection where, although I have to admit that Betsy Hoage came in one day and said, this goes here and this goes here and this goes here, that's it. Whether you agreed with her or not, you put the things where she said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1397.1,1430.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, she was in charge of Branch Library Services. She was in charge of, right, Assistant Director of Branch Library services at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1430.38,1437.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, she was Assistant Director of Branch Library Services and, and then, you know, after a year or whatever, then you move it around. So there was that, but then they also had all this money that you had to go and buy all the paperbacks and all the classics and all of this. And all that. So you do a lot of, you know, and it sounds like a lot of fun, but it's honestly not. It's tiring to go shop for and then process, like, all of these books all at once. And then you know there's programming and there's prettying it up and then there's the ribbon-cutting and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1437.8,1487.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yes, all the hoopla.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1487.56,1488.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and interestingly I stopped by there, I was in that neighborhood a couple of months ago and when - before we opened, I put up this bulletin board, You know, this display in this very beautiful, you know, they have the beautiful arched windows there and they have a very nice arched bulletin board in the children's area. So I created a bulletin board display there and it's still there. It's shocking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1489.54,1527.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Hilarious. That's amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1528.24,1530.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e That was good. Yeah, that was in 2005.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1530.66,1534.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow, it's like, it's like practically antique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1535.54,1537.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I know. I thought for sure someone, you know, who came after me would have changed it by now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1539.72,1547.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e It's too fabulous, Terry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1549.9,1551.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Apparently, apparently everyone still loves it. So, you know, anyway, So I worked there with Wendy Lambo. I don't know if you remember her. Yep,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1552.2,1572.043"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e I do. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1572.043,1572.233"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e we had so much fun. So much fun. I, that job, that place, that staff, working for Roy Stone. I just, I, I can't say enough wonderful things about Fairfax. I felt at home there, I felt like I was living my best career life there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1572.233,1593.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1595.2,1595.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. It was just the usual stuff, I guess, of, you know, class visits and story times and reference work and collection development and all that. And having just come from a Jewish life, you know, a Jewish school, It was interesting to be working with an Orthodox Jewish community. Not everyone was, but I had now a really good handle on the Jewish children's literature, so that was helpful. And I just had a whole lot of fun there. And after a couple of years, Wendy left and they eliminated the 2nd children's position. So, then it was just me, but that was fine. And gosh, I don't remember how long it was. Well, I got there in 2005 and then the world fell apart in 2008.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1596.16,1661.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, which is one of my questions. Tell me how that affected you and colleagues that you worked with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1662.66,1670.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, they were- People were leaving a lot of senior staff was leaving. They, you know, there was the ERIP [Early Retirement Incentive Program] I mean, I wasn't concerned about losing my job exactly, because I hadn't left the system. So I had, by then I still, I had a number of years. So that wasn't a concern, but they were scrambling kind of to - You know, I think that the administration just wasn't sure how to keep things running exactly. And so I was approached by Edris Newton, our Area Manager, who asked if I would be interested in trying out an Acting Senior position. At Valley Plaza, which was very close to where I was now living. I had, you know, by then I had gotten remarried at the Fairfax Library, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1672.36,1734.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that's right. I totally forgotten, Teri.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1735.52,1737.794"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, we got married in the library. Yeah. In 2007, November 2007. So I guess, I don't remember if it was 2008 or 2009, maybe it was 2009. Whenever all the, the, the crash of the economy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1737.9,1755.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1755.74,1756.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e And, you know, the libraries were, staff was taking that opportunity to leave, ERIP. And so Edris asked about me being an Acting Senior and she said you don't have to give up this position at Fairfax. That was key.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1757.46,1778.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e It was like, just temporary to help out LAPL.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1782.76,1785.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes. So I could try it to see if I liked it and also it would be helpful and it was very close to my house. So I said yes. And I ended up being there for a year. Within a couple of months, I had to lay off people, which was very upsetting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1786.56,1810.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1811.28,1811.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e And we got cut back to 5 days a week. There were, I want to say there were 3 of us, 3 librarians. But 1 of them had a nervous breakdown and left. So, then there were 2 of us, me and Emily Lopez.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1815.56,1839.567"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1840.84,1841.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. 2 librarians, yeah. And, and I, I feel like we only had. Well, I don't remember if we had, maybe we had 3 clerks. We had 4 MCs when I got there and I had to lay off two of them. Oh that's right I had to lay off a clerk and two MCs. So I had to decide who was losing their job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1842.34,1870.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh my god. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1871.0,1871.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e had to just gotten there. And it was really you know it was very stressful. Especially the the clerk I had to lay off was honestly the best clerk. Because she had been there the least amount of time. And I just, you know, it was horrible. Anyway, but you know, we stayed open, we made it work, whatever. And then I started - by then, Paul Montgomery was the new Area Manager in the East Valley and he started dropping hints that they really love me to just stay, but let go of my position at Fairfax. And I was like, \"I don't know. I, do I have to decide right now? No, you don't have to decide, but, you know, it's coming.\" And it was a, you know, it was a big decision, but also because of the staffing problems and because of the economic problems, they were telling the Acting Seniors that they could be put anywhere. Like, the branch they were sent to wasn't their branch necessarily. It was just, you're filling a spot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1871.6,1954.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1954.6,1955.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e And that really worried me. So, anyway, the day finally came where Paul called and said, \"You need to decide today.\" And I said, \"Well, if I have to decide today, I'd like to go back to Fairfax.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1955.46,1973.869"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is probably not the answer he was either expecting or hoping for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=1974.6,1978.88"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, absolutely wasn't. And he tried to talk me out of it, and I would not be talked out of it. And so I went back to Fairfax. And when I got there, actually, Maddie Ildefonso was there as, you know, like an interim children's librarian. And so we overlapped for maybe a month, and then she was, you know, sent somewhere else. But it was a very, It was interesting. It was, I got to watch, I got to watch her be the children's librarian and do the story times the way she was doing it. And she had implemented some things I thought were really wonderful that I kept. And it was really a good lesson in how important it is not to hold on to what you do with you know with closed fists. It's like other people have wonderful ideas. Other people have things that they do that, you can learn from. And I always, you know, I, it. I've taken that with me, you know, ever since that I don't know everything. I didn't know the best way to do things always. 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So keep an open mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2067.699,2091.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, definitely keep an open mind and collaborate. Collaboration too was just a big deal to me. And I really, you know, because Wendy Lambo and I worked together for those, whatever it was, a year and a half or two years, it really showed me how that is important. You know, that was fun and important too. Anyway, so yeah, I ended up back at Fairfax and loved it. Loved baby story time, loved all the story times, loved the crafts, loved summer. I even got to do a little, I don't know how this happened. 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I have the video of it somewhere. Yeah. Oh, and that and that's also when the collaboration wit LACMA started, which was right up my alley, you know, to have them come. They started coming, and we were the pilot branch for that program. And they would come and do art classes with the kids. 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I saw them at a, like a Christmas, or Union Christmas party or something. And they knew that, because Hannah, how did they know Hannah? I don't remember. But, you know, they knew that she had a, that she had a degree in art. And they're like, oh, yeah, we need assistance. You should go apply for this. So she did. And she did that for years. 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But Of course, he was always busy with the union stuff. [Roy Stone was a long-time President of the Librarian's Guild.] Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2249.64,2269.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e But he was always encouraging me to take the senior exam. And I was always like, \"But I don't want to be a Senior.\" And he'd say, \"No, you need to do this. You need to take this.\" So it was after, it was around the time like you were in charge of Children's Services by then, by yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2272.64,2299.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, pretty much. It was actually yeah, Youth Services. 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I remember going out to like meetings and with Karen Pickard-Four, we were like going to meetings in the Valley and presenting on Measure L.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2328.6,2339.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I did my share rallies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2340.14,2342.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Anyway, I had a sense like those, like the, I thought there would still be an LIII in Youth Services, or they would bring that back, hiring some Senior Librarians again. So for that reason only, I decided to take the senior exam. And I don't think I did very well the 1st time. 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And I always said, Youth Services, Youth services, Youth services. But I, Karen Pickard-Four was like, oh, you should also put down Panorama City. I put down Valley Plaza just because I knew it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2387.18,2409.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2409.24,2409.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I'd done that for a year, but she goes, you should do Panorama City. That branch is amazing. They get all the stuff. And so, you know, just kind of like, well, I can't just put one. I thought I couldn't put just one thing. I know better now. Because apparently you can just put one thing. But so I put Panorama City is like my 3rd choice. And and Maddie and I were both just like, dying to get the Senior Children's position, neither of us got in fact, we were afraid like, she was like, I was sure you got it. I was like, oh, I was sure you got it. And neither of us got it. Diane [Olivo-Posner] got it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2409.88,2456.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2456.2,2456.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e And I got Panoramic City.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2459.6,2462.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Which turned out pretty good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2464.62,2466.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, maybe on the surface.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2466.54,2470.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2473.5,2474.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, I knew myself. And I don't think I was a manager. I think I was a programmer. But I went there. Oh, and I also didn't mention that when I was at Fairfax still, I think maybe you called me and was like, oh, there's this - some kind of grant some federal grant. It was a lot of money to like, 25,000 dollars. Because I, I had started talking by then about, a toy collection. And you were like, \"oh, do you want to write up something?\" You know, we are going to submit, do you remember the name of the grant? I don't remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2476.32,2519.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2519.44,2520.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e But anyway, It was like a Sparks Grant or something. 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Anyway, I spent a lot of time writing up this grant while I was still at Fairfax, didn't get it. Okay. Move on. When I got to Panorama, they had started those. I can't remember the name of those either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2527.66,2547.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e IDEAS Grants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2549.16,2549.701"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. So they were starting it. They were doing the IDEAS Grant. And I don't remember who, but somebody said, oh, you should apply for one for the toy collection. Now, shortly after I got to Panorama, and I was just kind of finding my way of being a branch manager, which was nothing like being the children's librarian, even though I'd been librarian in charge and all of that, and had been the Senior at Valley Plaza. This just felt very different to me because I couldn't go back on it. 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So I had only been there a couple of months, and we closed. And the staff was farmed out to other places. We didn't know how long the branch was going to be closed. I, I had first got sent to North Hollywood. And then I, and by then, I think I think by then Cheryl Collins might have been Director of Branches. And I mentioned to her, maybe it wasn't her. Anyway, I mentioned to somebody, maybe it was Emily Fate [Assistant Director, Branch Library Services], who was also up there on the 4th floor. They didn't really need me at North Hollywood. And if there was something I could do, otherwise to be helpful downtown. 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But also I was thinking about that IDEAS Grant and while we were still closed, Christine Godinez had, she was not there when I started that position, even though she had been at Panorama City. But she had left for 6 months to go to DWP and decided she didn't like it. So she actually came back, you know, technically came back to Panorama City while we were still closed. And you know, I met her at North Hollywood and I thought, wow, this girl needs a project. She was so full of energy. She was so feisty. She was just like- I just thought. She's got she's got something going on. I want her to have like a project. And so I talked to her about, you know, helping develop this IDEAS Grant toy collection idea and talked to Beth [Gallego], who was the LII Children's for the East Valley and also my children's librarian. And so we applied for the IDEAS Grant and started working on it while the branch was still closed. 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What the heck?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2770.12,2772.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know what in retrospect, the, the feedback we got was actually very helpful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2773.52,2780.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eEva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884#t=2780.68,2781.034"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/129716/file/242884/transcript/67823/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTeri Markson:\u003c/strong\u003e And it did make a difference and, you know, we got it the 2nd time and it was a much clearer proposal. 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