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And today [February 4, 2025] we're joined by Helen Yoshikawa, who grew up in North Hollywood. Hi, Helen. Thank you for joining us. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2.36,16.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I was born Helen Lorraine Tsibidas. My father was Greek, but he died two weeks before I was born. And therefore, when we came home from the hospital, we moved in with my maternal grandparents on Klump Street in North Hollywood. And I was born in 1953, so I'm 71 at this point. And I love learning and telling about the past and making connections and so was thrilled that you invited me to come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=17.28,58.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I thank you for coming. You called [the library] and asked a question about Lankershim Elementary, and you were telling me that you went to Lankershim Elementary as well as your mom. So tell me about your school days. What years did you go to Lankershim Elementary? Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=58.8,71.95"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e well, I went from kindergarten through part of third grade is when I moved out, so I'm not sure the numbers. I was born in 1953. I know I have my school photos through I think second grade because I left before photos I guess at the end of the year. But that was, I think in 1960 or '61. So I was probably in there third grade in '61, so second [grade] in '60. And then first [grade] would have been '59. So '58.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=71.95,114.33"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember your mom talking about going to Lankershim Elementary?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=115.59,118.63"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes. It's. She and all her siblings went there, and she had two sisters and one brother. And she told me about two of her favorite teachers and was thrilled because in second grade, I had Mrs. Turner, who was one of her two favorite teachers, and she was just so thrilled. I was supposed to go to Oxnard [Street Elementary], but they arranged for me to be able to come to Lankershim [Elementary]. Which was actually a closer walk, I think, than Oxnard was. But at any rate, they arranged and I was able to come there. I have stories, actually, a couple memories of the siblings at Lankershim Elementary, because I guess for some reason, my Aunt Lorraine and my uncle-- we called him Buddy, his name was Frank--were both in the same class. And one day the principal came in and said, we need some little children to go to a new classroom because I guess the classroom was too big. And my Aunt Lorraine had not been happy in that classroom because she was very straightforward and wanted to draw the picture of the nursery rhyme. And this teacher said, \"No, just do it your own way!\" And she was very intimidated. So the moment that that principal said, \"Would anyone like to go?\" She raised her hand and she had this wonderful teacher and she said that changed her whole life. And my Uncle Buddy didn't get to move and he had much more struggle all through school and all through life. And she felt that because she got to go to that new classroom, that made all the difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=118.67,223.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e That's amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=223.9,224.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I do I have [school] work that my mom did. She was very artistic and so I have the books that include her drawing. But speaking of Lankershim [Elementary], I could just read this one part. I have the original that she wrote and it says, \"Myself. My name is Ruth Barkley. I am nine years old. I go to Lankershim School. I live on 5026 Klump Avenue Street. I am in A3. My teacher is Mrs. Jackie. I play games. I have three sisters. I have one brother.\" Although she did include herself as one of the three sisters because it was just her and two other sisters. So that is actually from Lankershim Elementary, and I have other works that she'd done. That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=224.62,286.773"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e amazing that you have her stuff. We've seen photos of the bell at Lankershim. What do you know about the bell at Lankershim? [We previously shared photos of Lankershim Elementary available on Tessa. The bell dated from 1889 and was on the original schoolhouse on Lankershim Boulevard.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=286.773,294.01"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I know that it must not have been there when I was there, because I have a photo of me on my first day of school [shows photo]. And I was out in front of that area, and you can see a little square that looks like that must have been where the bell was. And that square is still there today, but the bell isn't. So it was gone by, what, 1958?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=294.01,330.49"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e The photo says December 1958. Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=330.57,331.85"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e But everything else is the same, and it's still the same today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=331.89,337.61"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm going to scan that photo so we can include it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=337.93,340.65"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that would be wonderful. Yeah, I still remember the dress I wore the first day of school. It was black corduroy with straps and a little white blouse. And it had that kind of like, Danish or Norwegian embroidery kinds of colored flowers around the bottom part of the skirt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=340.77,362.69"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e That was your first day of school outfit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=362.73,364.25"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that was my first day of school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=364.29,366.29"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e What did you do for fun as a child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=367.25,369.13"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Well we I lived with my grandparents again until I was eight, and there weren't a lot of kids on the street. We did mainly family things. And my cousins-- I didn't have any siblings, but my cousins would come to my grandma's house, and we did a lot of just things at their little house. I remember we had an old fashioned--it was kind of like a teeter totter thing. It had a it had a place to stand on each side and it was curved. And so kids would stand on this side and stand on that side and you would rock it back and forth. And I can remember that. I can remember my Uncle Fred making us stilts out of wood. And we would do those stilts. And I remember having a pogo stick that I got for Christmas one time. But it was all stuff we kind of did at the house. We would make homemade little lean-tos--they had peach trees and apricot trees and we would make little lean-tos under the fruit trees. And they had a lot of junk in the backyard, piles of wood and stuff. And we would just have adventures where we'd go in the backyard and pretend we were on the ocean or that we were a family and we would do little activities in the yard. I didn't have many playmates outside of the family and my mom. She would come home from work as a housekeeper. And every Friday when she got paid, she bought a new Little Golden Book. And we actually lived in the screen porch in the back of the house. It didn't even have glass in the windows. It had screen and curtains. And I slept with my mom in that bed. And so every night she would read me stories from those Little Golden Books. And my grandparents had a little tear drop trailer, and every year we took that down to Baja California. And we would camp at the beach. So that was another--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=369.45,512.089"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Was that just you and your mom, or was it--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=512.32,513.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it was my grandparents. Mom would be home because she'd be working, but it would be my grandma and grandpa and my Uncle Buddy, and then sometimes different combinations of the cousins would come with us. Usually there'd be two of us that would go. And when we first would go down there, we stayed in a little motel somewhere, and I think it was Ensenada? I think it's in Baja. I think it was in Ensenada. And until we had that little trailer, we just stayed there and they would go fishing and different things like that. But I wasn't real athletic, but you know, I loved reading, and I loved doing dramatic kinds of things. And everything was with my grandma because she watched me. So, like, we would take the bus and we'd go into L.A. and go to Grand Central Market. She'd buy the the big tubs of bologna and have them slice it for her, and we would go to her stores. There must have been big-- I don't know what would have been the big two story department stores in downtown L.A.. There must have been Broadway or something big. And I can remember going with her to the second floor where the ladies dresses were and they had a one of those circular couches, green leather that you would sit. And it went all the way around with a back in the middle. And I'd sit there while she went and tried the dresses on. We would go down on the bus every year for the Hollywood Lane parade [at Christmastime]. And we'd get off at something and Vine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=513.96,613.75"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Hollywood and Vine? Hollywood","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=614.55,615.59"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e and Vine. And she'd take me in to pick out a candy bar. And then we'd go sit on the curb and watch the the Santa Claus Lane parade every year. So that was something that we did. That was fun. I can remember, when she watched me, she had an old fashioned Victrola, and we'd put those little records on and and listen to the the children's songs. I think I still have a couple of the records somewhere that from back, like The Good Ship Lollipop and things like that. And I played a lot alone in that backyard. I'd climb up in the apricot tree and have adventures. And in college I actually wrote a children's book where it was about that backyard. It was called Backyard Magic, and it was about going into that backyard, and all of a sudden it became, you know, a different world. And I would do that kind of thing. I think there was one kid that lived down the street because I remember one time going and playing, but mainly I just did things with my grandma, and I did things with my mom, and I would meet-- I would wait out front every day when she was going to come home. And I would remember, you know, meeting her and then we'd go down the rest of the street singing, \"The old gray mare she ain't what she used to be.\" And we'd sing that together. And we'd do trust walks where one of us would close our eyes and the other would lead them down the street. And [I] did things at North Hollywood Park. I was in the Brownies. I never went beyond the Brownies, but that was something fun. I have an article where it shows me and my Brownie friends in the little building which is still there. I went [today] and took a picture. They use it for storage now for the pool. But it was the ceramics room, and it [the newspaper article] has us rolling out things in ceramics. And I even found what I made [shows off the ceramics piece] something that looks like a paint palette, but it's out of ceramic and I have that. And I think that's what I was rolling out in that photograph in the newspaper with the Brownies. And so that was fun. And we we'd go out in the park. I can remember making-- some of the trees were the kind that have those little prickly balls [Sweet gum tree]--and spray painting them gold and putting glitter on them to make Christmas ornaments. So I remember doing that at the [North Hollywood] park. I remember another fun thing was the Halloween carnival every year out in the park. I took a picture of the baseball field thats still there. That's where they would have the bonfire, in the middle of the field, and then we would all march around in a circle, and they gave out ribbons. And almost every year, because my mom and grandma always made my Halloween costumes, almost every year I would win a blue ribbon. And then they had all the carnival games and things like that. I don't know if it's a new pole, but in the same place where the old pole used to be out behind the backstop of the baseball field-- it was a greased pole. They would have a contest with guys trying to make it to the top of that greased pole. What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=615.59,820.97"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e would they win if they made it to the top?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=820.97,822.37"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. I don't remember that, but I just remember that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=822.41,826.65"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Did that happen at the Halloween time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=827.65,829.41"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that was part of the Halloween festivities. So there would be the bonfire, the parade where they would call you out and give you the ribbons. All the carnival booths where you could go. And they had the little stage. That was another fun thing I did with my cousins, because there used to be this stone stage, and it had two stone sides, and then it had a circular front with dirt and then stone, and then it had a back area. And before I was around, in my mother and aunt's generation, that's where they would have dances--not like boy/girl dances--but where they would do the maypole dance. Somewhere I have a photograph of my mom all dressed up, and they would do the maypole dance right in front of that stage. But when I was growing up, my cousins and I would pretend. So we'd go back behind and pretend we were washing our hair and getting all dressed up, and then we would come out on stage and perform. And I believe once when I was little, they were still having the these kind of celebratory dance events, festivals or whatever--because I remember one time I was an Indian maiden. They had some that were the Indian maidens and then some were something else. I had the Indian maiden costume and did some kind of performance out in front of that stone stage. And that's where they have the big offices now, maybe for the senior center--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=829.45,921.475"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e And so it was on this side of Magnolia and Chandler?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=921.6,924.53"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. It was it's right where they have the baseball field and they have a big building where they do, I guess park and rec events or something. It's the big building that wasn't there. And then behind it there are two other buildings, the senior center and maybe the preschool program or something. And I think that's where they had a big auditorium, which is where they had the Old Timers picnic, I believe it was over there. But that seems to all be gone now, although the baseball field is still there. The tennis courts were here when I was growing up. But [what used to be] next to the tennis courts in my parents generation, [was] a giant adult jungle gym thing where the bodybuilders would go and do all sorts of things on the bars. And they had a giant circular rings. I have a picture of my mom on that. It was giant. And they would get on the rings and they would go [from] ring to ring to ring, all in a giant circle. And that's all gone. The place where I used to play in the little kids playground--I don't know what it was for a while--but now it almost looks like what it did when I was little. It's different [more] modern, but it was circular and there was a there was a circular fence. Back then, it was like a plaster [wall] and it had all the nursery rhyme murals on it, painted like Hansel and Gretel and things like that. Now that's gone, but the area is still they've got this circular area with a fence right where those Hansel and Gretel and other things were. I played many years having lots of fun in that little playground area. So now it's modern, but they've made it back to the circular shape and it was indented back then--you stepped down [into the playground]. Now it's all flat, but it's the same shape.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=925.96,1053.557"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e That's amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1054.55,1055.19"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And I don't know, because for a while, I don't think it was like that there. I remember saying, \"Oh, they took out the little kid playground.\" But now they've made it the same shape. Another fun [thing to do] was at the pool. I used to spend so much time at that swimming pool. And they had a thing--and it looks the same, the front and everything looks the same--you'd go in and the people who were in charge of where you changed your bathing suits, they had these net bags and you'd put your clothes in there and they'd give you a key that [was] pinned on you. But if a kid like me went in, and I was willing to go in and collect all of the net bags and everything that had been left all around, then they would let you go in for free to swim. So I would start by going and collecting all the bags and everything. And then I got to get my pin and I got to go in and swim [for free]. That's where I first learned to swim. I've never been a good swimmer, but I learned to do the underwater [swimming] so I remember that pool. They had two pools. I think it's only one big pool now but I think they had a a smaller area pool and a bigger area pool. And I can remember ducking under and kicking off the side of that pool and shooting across to the other side of the pool, underwater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1055.23,1132.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Did they teach you to swim there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1132.7,1133.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I just learned to do that on my own. I never really learned how to really swim [until college], but I could get across underwater with holding my breath and swoosh, and it's still one of my favorite ways to swim. So I guess those were, you know, some of the fun things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1133.94,1150.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you remember the ice cream man coming around?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1150.78,1152.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I did. He came down Klump Street, the ice cream man. And I can remember, I think Drumsticks with the nuts on top and the chocolate were my favorite. And also the bread wagon would come, Helms Bakery came. And my grandpa--I guess it probably wasn't Helms bakery, but I've got something that tells the one he worked for, but I think it was before Helms --he worked on the bread wagon. And he went around to all the customers and sold the bread. They were pretty poor, my family was--my grandparents, so then he'd get to bring home the day old bread and pastries and goodies from his bread wagon. I even have a photo of him on a real old, what I think was the bread wagon. I've got a photo from way back then. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1152.74,1203.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e he would have had bread and pastries, but he wouldn't have had milk or orange juice or things like that? I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1203.42,1207.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e don't think [so] I think it was just bread type products. I think that's all it was. And I know he called it the bread wagon, and that's before he worked at the Valley Times. And I noticed you have some references from the Valley Times [in the \"Dig Los Angeles: North Hollywood Library\" booklet]. What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1207.02,1223.01"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e did he do with the Valley Times? He","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1223.01,1224.49"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e worked and again I can get you pictures at another time. But he worked in this little room and I don't know [for sure but] I think it had to do with advertising, because sometimes he would bring stuff home that different companies had given him. I have a clock that he got, and I had a record, a Zorba the Greek book or something. I had these things that he got that they told him he could just take home, but it was this little room within the building. I know it had one of those doors where the top part opens and the bottom part stays closed [a Dutch door]. And I've got pictures of him, but it must have had something to do with being in charge of keeping track of the advertising, and maybe then people that were going to put ads in the paper or something, I'm not sure. I've got his Valley Times mug. In fact, I've got a couple of his mugs that say Valley Times. And I've got photos of him in that little mailroom. I think it was the mailroom. Something tells me it was the mailroom. And there's a picture of him by the big mail bag and stuff like that. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1224.49,1298.187"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e [Valley Times office] used to be over on Magnolia, right? Was that where it was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1298.187,1301.09"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Probably. I know it was down this way. It was within walking distance, because sometimes my grandma and I--there used to be a theater right by the Valley Times, a children's theater. My grandma would take me and we'd go watch--I remember \"Beauty and the Beast\" and a couple of different performances. And I remember one time coming and waiting in my grandpa's car in the Valley Times parking lot across the street. But he he didn't show up. We have a feeling he went to play cards somewhere. And so finally, my grandma and I wrapped up in blankets that had been on the backseat of the car, and we walked home in the cold wind, but it was obviously within walking distance. But I'm sure we could find out where it was. [Valley Times office was at 11109 Magnolia Blvd. and North Hollywood Playhouse was at 11043 Magnolia] Talking about fun things, he [her grandfather] used to bring back these things that they used to print the pages of the paper. but it wasn't. I guess they, you know, set the print--but then it was like this heavy stuff--it wasn't plastic. It was some kind of fiber stuff, and it was stiff. And they would print press that and onto that, and then they would ink those up and they would run the pages for the press. But if you took that home--he'd bring those home to us--they were fun to color on. They were raised and textured, but they looked like a page of a newspaper, and we would color on them and and do fun things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1301.13,1386.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e I wonder if they just threw those away at the end of the day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1386.96,1389.82"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Probably, yeah, I think so. They were [used] and then that would be what they would do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1390.24,1395.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it sounds like fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1396.08,1397.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I know, I've gone on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1397.24,1399.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I love it. So, when you came in today, you were walking around the library. Did you visit the library as a child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1399.48,1405.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I did, and again, I have more memories of Sun Valley Library because I was older then. But I know when I came in [to the North Hollywood Library] and when I saw the entryway, it just clicked in my mind. So I know I came here, I know I did. I wasn't a big reader until later, probably about fourth grade is when I became an avid reader. But I'm sure [I came to this library]. And then my mom would read me the Little Golden Books that she bought, which I still have my Golden Books. I'm not sure we checked books out of the library, but I know we were here. I think maybe we came and did things with the Brownies, and maybe sometimes we actually came into the library because it looked familiar, especially the tiles and the words [Sidney Lanier quotes around the library] and the special vintage things that you still have. They just clicked when I saw it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1405.72,1459.27"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it's a beautiful library. So did you have a favorite place to go when you were a child? You talked about going to downtown. Did you enjoy going to downtown [and] you talked about the Hollywood Christmas parade?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1460.15,1474.35"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes. My grandpa drove, but my grandma didn't, and my mom didn't have a car. So we [Helen and her grandmother] did the bus everywhere. So just going down into North Hollywood was a favorite trip. Rathbun's, Rathburn's, however you say it, but that's where my grandma would go to get her little outfits and her dresses. She called it \"my store.\" There was a toy store in downtown North Hollywood, and I just remember my my nanny [her grandmother] taking me into that toy store, and there were stairs that went down stairs. So there was the top floor and there was the downstairs floor. And that was the most--because we were poor, we didn't have a lot--and it was the most magical place to go into that North Hollywood toy store. My grandma loved dolls and so she would buy Madame Alexander dolls. I have one of hers that she gave me for Christmas one year, but going there. [I enjoyed] taking the bus to Laurel Plaza, I think it was. It was the place on Laurel Canyon where it had the [JC] Penneys and the Sears, and she would take me to Schafer's cafeteria, and I got to pick items to eat at that cafeteria. And then we crossed the street, and they had a bakery with a big glass window where you could watch them make the big giant cakes. I remember them making a cake. It must have been for for adults, I didn't know it at the time, but it probably had a bottle on it and all the pink elephants. But I just remember the big pink elephants winding around that cake and that being so magical. Going to downtown Los Angeles on the bus with my grandma and going to Grand Central Market and on the funicular....","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1474.39,1588.604"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Angels Flight? Angels","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1589.5,1590.5"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Flight, and back then, I don't think we ever went to anything at the top. I've gone there since, and gone to the Broad and all that. But we she would take me on Angels Flight, and then we would go to the Santa Claus Lane parade every single year and stop at Hollywood and Vine. There was a drugstore there, and we'd get off the bus, go in, and she'd let me pick a candy bar, and then we'd go and sit on the on the curb and watch the Santa Claus Lane parade, and then come on back. And I can remember taking the bus to the Ice Capades and going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1590.5,1626.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Sonja Henie, Ice Capades? Was that at Pan Pacific Park?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1626.5,1630.204"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. I just know there was the Ice Capades. And then there was another ice show. There was the Ice Capades and another-- The","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1630.69,1637.33"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Ice Follies? Follies,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1637.33,1638.69"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I think maybe. And I think we had gone to both. But I remember we would go on the bus to go to see it wherever it was, but I wouldn't know where that would be. And then the restaurant, they had two of them. They had the Polynesian one--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1638.69,1659.284"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Clifton's? Clifton's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1659.45,1660.69"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e That's where we would have our birthday parties. And that again, I mean, everything that I did that was fun, really wasn't your typical kind of fun things that most kids did. Everything was family--it was my cousins and my grandparents and my mom. That was our world when I was growing up in North Hollywood. But I have a photo--I thought it was my birthday, but it turns out it was my cousin Judy, who's six months younger, birthday. But they gave you the free cake, and then you got to get something out of the treasure box. And it was just we would go there for birthdays.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1661.05,1698.93"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you go to both [Clifton's] Pacific Seas and Brookdale?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1699.09,1701.57"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e We went to the Pacific one, and that's the picture I have. Let's see. Well, I don't know where I, I we won't waste the time right now, but I have it here somewhere, the picture, and it's the Pacific one. But as an older person, I went back there. I think for my 40th birthday or something. That one [Clifton's Pacific Seas] was no longer existing. So we went to the Sequoia [Clifton's Brookdale] one. You know, they still had the trays. They still had so much, and now I've wanted to go back since they've renovated it. I'm not sure, I'd heard it was still a cafeteria, but I don't know if it is now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1701.81,1747.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it was closed for a while and then they had the bars on the upper floors, but I think he was trying to open it back up with the cafeteria element. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1747.88,1753.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e think he was, and I'm not sure, but if so, I'd like to go. But yeah, it was. We went back and they still gave you the little cake. We still got me a birthday cake and it's free and our whole family went and we took pictures in front. I gave them a framed copy of the picture of us sitting at the table when she was a kid, for cousin Judy's birthday). And a teacher friend of mine had a picture sitting at the very same table when she was a little girl having a birthday party, and we figured it out because you could see certain things on the wall that was exactly the same. The the way the leaves were. It was the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1753.6,1793.84"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e That was the birthday table.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1793.88,1794.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e It was the same booth, you know. So we would do that kind of thing every summer. I went with my grandma and grandpa and my Uncle Buddy down to Baja California, and we camped in the teardrop trailer. The men would sleep in the car, and the women would sleep inside that little teardrop trailer. And we would fish and I remember my Uncle Buddy, when I was there with my cousin, got some giant seaweed where the balls were big, like, as big as a basketball. And there was a basketball size. And then there was one a little smaller and smaller, and he cut like jack o lantern faces. So my cousin and I had a family. And so we had the mother and the father and the boy and the girl and the baby. And we played with those seaweed dolls. So, you know, that kind of thing. We had a simple, fun life. And even at Lankershim Elementary, happy memories there. Every year they had a dance celebration. And I think they still do something like that. But I can remember at least two of the dances there. And one, we did the \"Mexican Hat Dance.\" Da dun da dun da dun da dun dun dun dun da dun. And I can remember that one. And I think we wore sombreros. And then I remember earlier, maybe my kindergarten year. It was \"The Thread Follows a Needle.\" We had this giant wooden needle with big yarn, and all of us kids were attached, you know, holding on to that. And it was, (singing) \"The thread follows the needle. The thread follows the needle. In and out the needle goes while mother sews the children's clothes.\" And now, every year when I do Pioneer Gold Rush with the students, as I teach them to sew the quilt square, I use that song and say, this is how you make it fun and learn to sew. And I sing the song and have the kids sing it. And so things from your childhood that were happy and joyful that you know, you keep your whole life. You know, so those are some of the-- I was in Indian Woodcraft Rangers when I was older, but that wasn't North Hollywood. No, it might have been Pacoima, but it was called Woodcraft Rangers, which is probably politically incorrect now. But I was the chief because I was older in the group, and we met every week at the school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1795.0,1952.15"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Was that similar to Brownies?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1952.39,1953.679"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I guess it was, but it had boys and girls in it, and we did crafts and we had ques, you know, we had a badge thing across our chest and we'd get ques for doing different projects. So it must have been like Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, except it had boys and girls. And it was an Indian theme. I remember having fun doing that. But that wasn't North Hollywood. If you if want to stick to North Hollywood, I've got some other fun but that was-- I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1953.79,1984.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e was going to ask you when you lived here, were there orchards and farmland around or was it gone?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1984.34,1989.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it was gone by then. It was all pretty much developed. It was a lot of the little old Spanish style tile roof houses and stuff like that. I remember on Klump street where my mom and her siblings grew up. They lost that house during the depression, but that was the other side of Klump. And there was a Baptist church at the end. And I can remember going to the Baptist church with my nanny (grandmother) when they had their big potlucks and stuff like that. But when my grandparents [were growing up], that's how my grandparents met- -picking peaches in the orchards in the valley. That's how they met. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=1989.9,2037.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e did they grow up here? My","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2037.58,2038.932"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e grandfather actually moved from Northern California as a young adult. My grandmother came when her father worked for Barker Brothers, and they had sent them out here to furnish and everything, the [Henry] Huntington House that's in the Huntington Library","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2041.46,2061.184"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Huntington Gardens Library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2062.78,2064.335"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh huh. And my grandma always talked about the big table in the main house, that her father was the one that chose that table to go in that in the house. But anyway, she was about eight, and they moved to Hollywood, and they had a house moved to an area on Curson Street. They ended up raising the house and building a floor underneath. And at first they had an outdoor kitchen, I know that the uncle came from--he was a carpenter--her Uncle George came out from Massachusetts, where they'd come from. He built the staircase between the two floors, and also built all the built-in cabinetry in the dining room, and those are still there when I got to visit that [house]. And I have a picture of her [her grandmother] in third grade, and I taught third grade. I have a picture of her in third grade, which must have been, I think it was Fairmont or something. It must have been a school in Hollywood because she would have been eight years old, and was living in Hollywood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2065.02,2134.37"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e How did they get to the Valley then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2134.41,2135.81"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. I know that she had one sister [who] lived in Glendale. She was, let's see--it was Elsie Lorraine, Roxie Laine, Helen Cheyney--that was my grandma-- and Ruth Arlene. That was their little poem. So I know that her older sister, Roxanne had a house in Glendale. And I know that her oldest sister, Elsie, had a large ranch where North Hollywood High School is. So, obviously they had moved in to the Valley area as adults. But I'm not sure how she ended up picking peaches in the valley. She was the one, they say she she was dropped as a child. She kind of had a humped back. And I she was very smart, if you ask me. But the rest of the family always kind of thought she was the one that wasn't quite as advanced as they were. Her older sister went to Berkeley and so they had always thought that she would be the one that stayed home and took care of the parents. And I remember her grinning and saying, \"Well, I had other ideas\" so I almost think she was spunky and decided to go work in the peach orchards because she wasn't going to get stuck home just taking care of the family while her sisters got to go off and have great lives. So I think maybe that's how it happened, but she obviously had people in the Valley because the ranch was here. Her older sister and so on. So that's probably how they got out this way. But then she met my grandpa, because he'd moved down here from up north, and they ended up married and had a nice little house over on Klump. But in the depression, they lost it. And they built this little ramshackle house that that's where I grew up. But it was on the other side of Klump. Is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2137.53,2269.312"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e that house still there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2269.44,2270.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Sadly, no. It was through when I was married, and then my Uncle Buddy had rented it out to someone and then decided he wanted to sell it. And the rest of the sisters--he could be kind of abrasive--and the rest of the sisters went along with it. Now there's a an apartment building on there, but it was way in the back. The house was towards the back. They had a little area with a walnut tree and clumps of grass because it never had a real lawn, and we had swings there. That's something else we played, on the swings. Then out beyond that was a big plot of land where they grew rhubarb and scallion onions and had an apricot tree, and they had a vegetable garden and that was the front yard. But then they had a big hedge at the very end of the big, long driveway. So you couldn't see all that from the end.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2270.72,2326.77"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Were they canning a lot of things?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2327.15,2328.63"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. The peaches, I can remember canning the peaches. I've got all sorts of stories. One time all the women left and my grandpa was home and was supposed to be in charge of the peaches boiling on the stove. Well, at the Valley Times, he'd gotten a bottle of champagne, and he decided while he was home alone to drink that champagne. And we all got home, and the peaches had boiled all over that big pot of the peaches she was cooking on the stove. And I just remember my grandma was not very happy. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2328.67,2368.31"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e was going to say she might not have been happy about those peaches that went to ruin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2368.31,2372.03"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. The peaches were special at the Old-Timers Picnic, because every year when we went here at the North Hollywood Park to the Old-Timers Picnic (Beginning in the late 1940s, early residents of the area would meet at the park to reminisence about the community's past.) One of the things [I remember] was everybody got fresh peaches. So we I think it must have been potluck, and we all brought food and stuff. It was big long tables in that room--the big auditorium, which I guess is probably torn down. It's a new building [there now], but I remember eating in there and then at the end everybody got peaches and the last Old-Timers Picnic, and I don't know how old I would have been, maybe when I was 8 or 9. I think that was the last one they had. And by then they didn't have all the peaches for everybody. So they started [asking] who's the oldest people here? And they gave a peach to the oldest person and then the next oldest. So not everybody got the peaches anymore because they didn't have enough peaches. So I don't know, maybe in the early days, even when I was real young, maybe there were still some orchards around. I don't remember them, but I know they picked all those peaches and gave everybody peaches at the Old-Timers Picnic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2372.07,2439.994"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is amazing. I mean, you rarely see a peach tree around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2440.71,2444.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I mean, I was surprised to realize that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2445.14,2448.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Were you living here when the freeways went in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2448.42,2450.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I have no memory. I don't know anything- again, because most of us didn't drive--Oh, yes! There had to be freeways because my Aunt Florann and my cousins, and my Uncle Fred lived in East L.A. So when we would drive from my grandma's house to their house in East L.A. I think, we had to go on a freeway. And because I remember on the embankments there were rabbits. And so we would always look for the bunnies as we were driving along the freeway and on the other side of the freeway, whichever freeway it was, is where you could see City Hall. And back in the day, all the bottom [of City Hall] was dark and the only part lighted was that top dome part, and there wasn't much light around anywhere back then. And I remember wondering how people got up to that building in the sky. I must have been 4 or 5 years old. \"Did they have a ladder?\" I mean, it didn't occur to me. Well, how could it be floating in the sky? But I literally thought it was a building up there with nothing underneath it and wondered how they got up there. So whatever freeway would have taken you from East L.A. and going by City Hall--that freeway existed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2450.46,2535.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e That's fun. I love that story. Did you visit any of the movie studios around [the San Fernando Valley] or go to the beach?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2536.02,2543.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Both. The movie studios were--I guess it was [NBC's] Burbank Studio--and that was when I was more a teenager. We would go to see the game shows. So we would go to see Hollywood Squares, and I think it was PDQ was another one that I remember. But the one I really remember is Hollywood Squares. And I don't know where Let's Make a Deal was back then, but we dressed my--these were my early teen years, maybe 12 [or] 13-- we dressed my aunt and uncle up. His [costume] was-- we made those old-fashioned octopus out of yarn, and we had a big one on his head and all over him, and his sign said, \"I'm all arms for you.\" And we made her costume-- we put buttons and bows all over my Aunt Lorraine, and hers was \"Buttons and bows, I'm on my toes, to make a deal with you.\" And they both got picked to be on the downstage. But had they been partners, they'd said, \"You know, if you came as partners, you might have gotten actually to make a deal.\" But they got on the down on the stage. They were both picked and they both got a pen that said, Let's Make a Deal. And they gave it to my cousin Charlotte and me because we were the ones that had decorated them up. So I remember doing Let's Make a Deal. And then we were in the back watching. And then I remember they had a stage door when you went to see the game shows, and we would wait out by this--my cousins and I--would wait out [there] and get signatures. And I remember we got Vincent Price. Wally Cox had ridden a motorcycle and back then they had the registration in cars and on motorcycles right where you could see it. And so we went and we copied down his address off of his registration. So those are the game shows. So mainly we went to the theaters, but back then they had free tours. I think it was [NBC's] Burbank studio. And so when I was a teenager, we went and did the free tours through that studio and then Universal Studio. My stepfather worked for Universal Studio. And he used to work on the tram. He was a tram driver, and then he became a truck driver on the different sets. And so he would drive the trucks out to the sets where people were filming. And so he had autographs from a lot of the different shows. And in the garage, to this day, we have little placards that were from the different shows he worked on. He has autograph stuff that I gave to my son from Dukes of Hazzard, because he spent a lot of time working on Dukes of Hazzard and really knew the performers and all that. So yeah, we did do that. And then for [the] beach, we usually would go to-- Santa Monica beach was our go-to beach. Actually earlier generations of the family, you used to be able to camp on Santa Monica beach. So my grandpa would take the whole family on vacation in his bread wagon down to Santa Monica beach. They would set up all the tents and everything and [he would] leave the family and my grandma there camping at Santa Monica beach for the week while he went back and and delivered on the bread wagon. So you used to be able to do that. And on the piers, like Santa Monica pier, my Uncle Buddy would be able to catch giant halibut. I mean, the kind that you can keep the big giant ones off the end of Santa Monica pier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2544.5,2763.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e You wouldn't even think of being able to do that now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2763.24,2766.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e No. And so, you know, as a teenager, I wasn't one of the cool kids, so I didn't do as much. I never surfed and I never did any of that. I can remember going like with the church group down to the beach and that being so exciting. And then for a while there, they had a teenage show that they filmed on the beach and I can't remember the name of it--Groovy or Hullabaloo? Groovy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2766.36,2795.19"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Michael Blodgett was the host of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2795.59,2797.39"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. I just remembered my dream was to get to go down [to see the show], and I never got to. That","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2797.43,2803.79"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e was a pretty short-lived show, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2803.79,2805.27"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. I just remember we'd watch it on TV and I wanted to go and I never got to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2805.31,2814.27"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e But did you see the Beatles at Hollywood Bowl?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2814.31,2816.15"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I but I remember being babysat the night they were on Ed Sullivan. And my parents left us at this house, and they went out with somebody, and it was a teenage boy who was our babysitter. I remember watching the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show that night. And probably if he hadn't been a teenage boy, it wouldn't have maybe even occurred to get turned on. 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She'd always told me the story of there being a flood in North Hollywood, and that everybody went to the top of the second story of the El Portal Theatre to get away from the floodwaters. Now, I don't know how many people lived in North Hollywood, and I don't know how many people could fit on the top of that building, but I know she and the family were on the top of the El Portal to get away from the floodwaters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=2975.58,3006.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eTiffney:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is just amazing. I would love to see a photo of that, not that people are thinking about taking photos when something like that is going on. 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So did you visit your grandparents--I'm guessing-- all the time? Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304#t=3089.21,3093.97"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2367/collection_resources/158025/file/288304/transcript/83178/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHelen:\u003c/strong\u003e all the time. In fact, I could even walk wherever we were in the North Hollywood Apartments. It was walking distance. And I can remember walking there. 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