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Today is January 25, 2024, and I am interviewing Anne Connor. Anne, please introduce yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=0.16,13.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Hi, I'm Anne Connor. I started with Los Angeles Public Library in 1980 and I retired 30 years later in 2010. Started as a children's librarian and I retired as the Director of Central Library and in between in various positions in branches and at Central Library, including the Children's Services Coordinator for five years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=14.6,41.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you happen to remember what the hiring process was like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=43.18,47.894"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I graduated in 1979, which was right around the time of Prop 13. So nobody was hiring. And I interviewed with the county and the city and various municipal library systems. And I first got called for the county and I was told, \"No, your score is too low, forget it.\" I was like, okay. And then my score for the city was actually lower, so I thought, well, that's that. And I took a job in Torrance, which was nice, but far from my house in the San Fernando Valley. And it was a long drive during the gas crisis. So not too long after I got a certification from LAPL and I started, I, you know, interviewed for children's librarians position. And the different thing then compared to now is that when you made yourself available, they gave you a list of all the positions and you could call and set up interviews with each Senior Librarian in each branch or department. Yeah, and that was really nice because you got to meet the people. But it was really inconvenient, especially when you were already working at another job, but you didn't really want to know that you were leaving because that was kind of tacky. So anyway, I interviewed, and I was hired and went to the Northridge Branch, which was great. Great branch, and I was very happy there. And then not too long after, certainly within the year, the library started laying people off because of cutting back positions because of Prop 13 funding cuts. So my position was cut to half-time and I had the choice of leaving that branch. There were all sorts of, it was very close. I was almost laid off, but I wasn't. But I had the choice of leaving that branch and going someplace far away. And I had just sort of been there, done that, so I didn't want to do that. Or staying at Northridge and going half-time, which would have meant going YA. But I really wanted to be a children's librarian. So my Senior, who was Chuck Lush and very creative, kind of iconoclastic, he was a great Senior. It was very, very odd. Any idea you had, it was like, OK, well, you figure it out and you do it. It was great. And so he said, \"Well, you can be a half-time children's librarian and the YA librarian who's Judy Sanchez (and later Judy Sanchez Moorhead) was YA. And she said she would split the position. So she was half-time children's, and I was half-time YA. And we worked like that for quite a long time. And it worked pretty well. It was great because we could do programs together and we split going to order meetings and all of that. And it was fun. But what was interesting about that period was that since I was only half-time, I substituted while I waited for there to be some hiring. And I substituted all over the Valley. And I think that was like one of the best learning experiences of my early career because I was at this little family branch and everything was great. And then I went and worked in all the different branches all over the Valley. And not that anything wasn't great, but it wasn't the same. And it was really important, I thought, to learn as a new librarian that everybody's going to do things a little bit differently and it's neither good nor bad. Sometimes it was bad, but you know, whatever. But it was just going to be different places and I think that people don't always realize that right away, that you have to be flexible, that the system has rules and regulations. But they're always going to be interpreted a little bit differently. So finally, after, I don't know, almost two years as part-time, I was hired by the Brentwood Branch Senior, and I moved to Brentwood. And I was there for about a year, and then I transferred to West... 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And at that time, the Friends of the Library were having a very active building campaign. They wanted to build a new building because it was one of the old branches and it was teeny tiny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=319.22,349.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e I used to work there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=351.9,353.238"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, the old branch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=353.24,354.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, the old branch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=354.4,355.854"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Teeny tiny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=356.52,357.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e I was there during the building and then after.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=360.24,360.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't realize, remember that. Well, anyway, so it was so tiny. So they wanted to build a new branch. And actually, I was there when Gloria Kaufman came in and said she would like to donate money to build a branch in honor of her husband who had just, to expand the branch in honor of her husband who had just passed away. So it's kind of a seminal moment there. So anyway, I went to West LA, mainly because I wanted to be in a bigger branch and it seemed like a good opportunity. I was hoping to promote, and I thought, well, you know, I should work in a bigger branch. That would be good. Who knows when I'll get to work in a Regional Branch. Well, as it happened, the senior librarian there, who was Fontayne Holmes, decided she wanted a different kind of experience. And so she went downtown to Interlibrary Loan, which meant the Senior position was open. And I was the Acting Senior for a while, and then I was promoted to be the Senior Librarian at West LA.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=360.48,428.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e And so how old were you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=428.68,430.88"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e 30.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=432.88,433.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh my gosh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=433.78,434.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e 30, because...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=436.16,437.143"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e A wunderkind, but... I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=439.08,439.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e started at 25, and I was a Senior at 30. I don't know about a wunderkind. You could take the test with a lot less experience then. I think you only needed six months. And I mean, by that time I had a lot of, I had a fair amount of experience, but I was on the Senior list because my senior was like, take the test. And whether or not you want to promote, take the test. Always take the test, which I think is really good advice for anybody. It's always better to be on the list than not to be on the list because you never know. But anyway, so there I was and I was promoted to the Senior Librarian at West LA And I stayed there for about 10 years. And that was a great branch to work in. A lot of changes, a lot of things happening over the years that you might want to talk about later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=439.32,493.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, we will talk about West LA.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=497.9,498.03"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e And then after a while, I started to think I wanted something different. And I interviewed to promote to Principal Librarian and Children's Services. So I went there, and another interesting experience. And it was after Central had reopened and things, there was like this weird period, which maybe you want to talk about later, but where the Divisions were changing. And so when I first started in children's services, there was a Principal in Children's Literature, Janine Goodale. And then they eliminated that position and folded Children's Literature into Children's Services. So I was affiliated with branches and then not affiliated with branches. And then I was affiliated with the Assistant City Librarian. And I had Children's Literature. It was very odd. It was a very odd period. But anyway, I was in charge of Children's Literature for a while. And then Children's Literature went back to Central Library when I was in Central Library. And so I got it again, which was great. So I did Children's Services for about five years. And then I promoted to the Principal Librarian II, in Central Library Services. And then when the Division Librarian Cecilia Riddell moved over to Branch Library Services, I promoted to Central Library Director. And I was there until I retired.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=498.03,602.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=604.64,605.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e That's it. That's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=606.54,608.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e I actually had forgotten about that period of the Division heads, the Divisions for Central Library being kind of reorganized?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=608.42,619.5"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there were lots of periods where that happened. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=622.84,625.84"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=625.84,625.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e mean, when  started, there was a Principal Librarian in every department at Central Library. And then just over the years, they just kept cutting back and cutting back and cutting back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=625.94,641.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's true. Yeah, my mother remembers the time when there was a Principal Librarian in every Subject Department. And, you know, that whole kind of range reorganizing on the fly actually happened after the, well, the great culling and retiring of 2010, of course, because suddenly there was nobody left. And so they had to combine a lot of different jobs and actually, this interview is about you, not me. And I just finished the thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=643.48,680.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e But actually, I think the Principals at Central were reorganized into pretty much what they are now when I was there. I mean, that was. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=683.0,692.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e think you're right. Yeah. But just for a brief time like from 2010 to 2012, I was the Acting Principal Librarian of Children's Services, YA Services, Teen'scape and Children's Literature Department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=692.08,709.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=710.56,711.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e All of it, yeah with no staff. So that was great, but luckily it went back to normal. Anyway, moving on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=711.22,719.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=720.06,720.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e So let's talk about the 1986 fire briefly, because that will kind of throw us back to West LA.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=720.72,729.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=731.74,732.094"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e So obviously, Central Library, caught fire in 1986. And I'm wondering, and you were at West LA at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=732.5,740.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e I was at West L.A. and I got a phone call from Renee Weisenberg, one of the Senior Librarians in the Region, and she was like, \"Central Library is on fire.\" And I thought, I just thought she was joking because I couldn't even imagine that that would be true. But sadly she was not joking. And so, you know, it really changed so much about what we did. It was just devastating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=740.74,770.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e How did it affect your work and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=770.38,771.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e In my work, you know, it didn't really affect me that much immediately. There was a huge effort to save the books and, you know, to preserve what they could out of the library. But sadly, and I was really sad at the time, I had scheduled a vacation. So I was gone during that first two weeks of everything happening. And then once that was over, pretty much in branches, everything kind of went on as normal, but without the backbone of Central Library. And you have to, one of the things that, thinking about time and what changed over the years was that I think the library systems always had kind of a pyramid where Central is the beginning or the end of reference. But it was much more that then because it was before we had computers, it was before we had the internet and branches had very small reference collections. Regional branches had bigger reference collections, but we didn't have the resources to answer what Central Library had. And all of a sudden, we didn't have access to those librarians. We didn't have access to the collection. Nothing. Everything was closed off. And it was just such a loss. It was just amazing how much our ability to do so much was reduced. I mean, of course, we adjusted, but it was really bad. And things have changed since then in that, you know, with the internet and all of the digital resources and databases, librarians in the smallest branch now can get access to the information that was completely closed off to us 25 years ago, 30 years ago. 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For one thing, we used to get, you probably remember from when you were at West LA, it was like all the people who would call for questions, bar bets, all of these questions that nobody would bother calling a library now because they just check and they just Google it. And they know the answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=906.9,927.175"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, all of those things where you're like, I wonder what the, whatever the question is, yeah, you just Google it. 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I mean, it was a chance where you could kind of have a reference exchange with people who worked so differently. I mean, I think for them it was really eye-opening, the breadth of questions we got. And for us, it was really nice when somebody came in with a very specialized question to have somebody who knew the answers or could find the answers pretty easily with what we had, so... Who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=952.7,1012.066"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e knew what specialized resource book, reference book to check, or even who to call. 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So let's talk more about West LA.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1051.98,1054.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e You were one of my interns.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1058.2,1059.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right, I was an intern and then I was lucky enough to basically graduate library school, get hired at West LA, like the following Monday as a real full-time children's librarian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1059.94,1073.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow, I didn't realize the timing was that great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1074.34,1076.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e The timing was fabulous, especially since then there was a freeze.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1077.04,1080.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e There's always a freeze.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1082.3,1083.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e But you know, I, the West LA was so, it was so invigorating because of the staff, you know, the mixture of staff, as a Regional Branch and it got, dealt a wide variety of intriguing questions. 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You could bring the staff together and you could set the tone. You could set the mood and the service attitudes that you wanted. So we had a really good staff, and we did lots of things together. We had staff Halloween costume parties. We had bowling nights. We would have lots of events and parties, including one that you reminded me of that I'd kind of forgotten. We used to have interlibrary softball games with the Fairfax Branch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1131.58,1182.641"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1183.18,1183.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Which I think that started because Teresa Gonzalez was a clerk typist with us, and I think she got reassigned, I'm not sure how, but she had used to, she used to work at Fairfax. 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You know, those were kind of the transition years at LAPL because in a lot of ways. 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And we would get little trainings, and we would learn how to do things. And then as Central was getting ready to reopen at Spring Street and then back in the main building, the ITC or the technology department, whatever it was called then, would have little test groups to go and see how the automated catalog would work. And so I think I was doing that for a while and maybe some of the other librarians. And then we got computer catalogs. Very exciting. It was very exciting not to get catalog cards anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1378.58,1428.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e They were on CDs, right? They had to be changed out and they were always a little bit behind, I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1429.54,1435.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and I think we had them at the reference desk. But I don't think the public had them for a while, for a long time. But, you know, back in the day, we had our books in a card catalog. And then we had a listing of all of the books that were in the system. And then we had a listing of the new books that were added. And all of this was on microfiche. And so we had notebooks of microfiche. And people filled out postcards for their holds. And you would have to check them. 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The people who are nostalgic for card catalogs never had to file, revise, deal with people when they drop the catalog drawers and the cards scattered all over the place. 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Tell me about that position I feel like you did a lot of amazing stuff in that position.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1676.84,1685.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I guess we did. It was interesting. For me, it was hard because I was really a shy person and I didn't like public speaking and I didn't like, you know, doing a story hour was pretty much it for me as far as talking. And this was getting in front of an auditorium worth of people and doing meetings every month. And it was kind of horrifying. I was somebody who wouldn't get up in front of the group to do an oral book review. 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And I just sort of would make jokes and kind of make fun of it when I screwed up something or when things were going south, which they do from time to time. There were great Senior Librarians there, Maureen Wade and Susan Petron. And they had been working together since the time of your mom [Virginia Walter]. So between when your mother left to go to UCLA, there was another Principal Librarian, Ida White, and then it was vacant for a while. So they'd been working together for years. And then I came in and we kind of had to to work out our new systems and how to do things and they were great training me on what needed to be done. And you know, what I brought that they didn't have was the perspective of what was going on in the branches. And I think it's really easy for administrative staff or system-wide staff to kind of become separated from what's happening in the real world, the real librarians. So I tried to just kind of switch the focus to working with kids and trying to make things more efficient and trying to just have things work better and easier. And some of those ideas, like one of the things that bothered me as a children's librarian and then again as the coordinator was that we always had to reinvent summer reading. And I felt like the kids don't really care. To me, it was like the kids don't care. They want to get, they want to read, they want to be excited about reading, they want to have programs, they want to get a little prize or make it competitive or not or whatever the game is. But they don't care if the theme is animals or if it's going to space or whatever. And children's librarians would spend so much time, hours and hours and hours, designing all of these little fussy things. And I don't think kids care. And so for a while, we sort of streamlined that. But then it went back to being like regular themes. So I guess I was wrong. So the idea that we had was that we would have LA Kids Read as a theme for all of our reading activities. And we had a festival to set that off with, we sort of took over Central Library and had programs outside, inside, everywhere. And kids came, all the children's librarians from all over the city came and worked that day. And it was really fun. And it was sort of wildly successful beyond what we had expected, but we survived. And I learned all sorts of things like how to deal with the Fire Marshal and where we can have our lines and what we're doing things and event planning and all of that. So kind of great. 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But what we do is encourage staff involvement and offer overtime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1966.38,1972.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=1974.28,1975.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. 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So that was kind of Maureen Wade's baby, where she had started it with your mom, I think, and then kind of got some state funding and the grants. And then they started out small and then they had gone system-wide. And while I was there, they were also training librarians from all over the state on starting up a Grandparents and Books program. So I would go out with Maureen to different places all over the state and do these workshops, which is kind of interesting. It was great to just hear her dedication and passion about getting kids reading with the older adults in the community. And there were volunteer fairs, and it was quite the thing. 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That's pretty impressive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2140.84,2142.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e That was pretty great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2143.28,2144.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e And how was it working with Susan Patron?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2145.92,2148.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Susan was incredibly dedicated and passionate about the books. And her focus was always the literature. And she was in charge of creating the order sheets and getting all of that going. And she would go out to branches and help the librarians with their weeding and collection development. And she was very hands-on and very methodical and just always encouraging everybody to do their best and to give the best they could to their communities. And her dedication was amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2150.8,2196.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I felt very lucky to literally be able to, when I transferred to... I got to sit in her chair. That's where the position she retired from. So, yes, big shoes to fill. 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And the way that the collection development worked was kind of passive in a way. 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You know what? It had stopped by then. But when I started out, the children's librarians would come into her office, and they would pick books. 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The children's librarians typed up these little cards and then we would write our own little comments on it. And then after, and so basically, it took forever for a book to come into the system. It had to become a gift and be processed by acquisitions. We had to decide to put it in the order sheet, and then the children's librarians would go review that and they would come back. 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And it was just like, the kids were going crazy. And it was like, but it was it was cumbersome. And when it worked, it was fine. But it did not always work. So while I was there, we were switching over from that to, we were starting to use the Brodart and Baker \u0026 Taylor generated list, which also had problems, but we were using those to kind of gather our books. It was a big transition period for how books were acquired.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2321.82,2364.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. No, I remember that was, that went a long way toward making the process faster. I mean, it was still a slow process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2365.76,2374.84"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but still, you could list books pre-pub.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2375.8,2379.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. 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We had two adult, two senior adult order meetings a month, and I think YA's met every other month. Yeah, a lot of meetings. And it was a huge, I mean it was years and years of fighting over book inspection, order meetings, and I don't know if COVID was the death knell to it or...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2380.92,2445.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it was well before that we stopped having book inspection, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2446.64,2451.63"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e But again that was a huge time, it was a lot. A lot of time and a lot of energy but and it had a definite value but I guess libraries seem to be surviving without it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2453.42,2468.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I mean, it was for sure. People loved their, especially children, I think children's libraries in particular, loved their book inspection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2469.2,2479.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2480.5,2481.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e But yeah, if you're going to get things pre-pub, of course, and get them on a sheet in a different way, you're not going to have those books inspect, so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2481.18,2488.029"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. And then there was book committee. That was crazy. I mean, this was something that was pre-Fire. Book committee, I don't think really, maybe it lasted into Spring Street. But for adult books, the adult services coordinator, who was Jennifer Lambelet, would have one or two Seniors from branches and one or two adult librarians from branches. And we would go from department to department to look at the books that the departments pulled out and decided should be on the order sheet. And then we would kind of look at everything else and that's how the adult order sheets were created by these five people kind of trotting through all of the departments every week, gathering up the books to be on the order sheet from the books that went into Central. 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And we would have to go through and mark all of our order sheets with how many holds there were on every book and how many copies were in the system and all of that. That took a lot of time. And then at the order meeting we would have to go through page by page and share how many holds there were on all of the books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2556.82,2586.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh wow. There were... those were called order meetings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2586.28,2592.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e They were. They were order meetings because they were all about ordering the books. And that would take two hours to go page by page through every single book on the list with the whole region, all of the senior librarians from the region or children's librarians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2594.34,2614.5"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow. 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Good times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2626.68,2630.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2631.1,2631.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e So yeah, there you go. You've had a lot of change, indeed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2635.24,2641.121"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, there were a lot of changes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2642.14,2643.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e So... tell me about your promotion to, well, first you were Principal II, I guess, in Central Library, and then Director. What brought that on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2644.6,2658.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I mean, it was a promotion. So from Principal to Principal II is the big jump in pay and a different kind of responsibilities. I mean, it's an administrative position, so you're in a different kind of union. You're kind of kicked out of the union when you become a Principal too. 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So she was making a lot of those decisions. And we were not always consulted, as we might have been. Sometimes we were. But again, when I went to the department, the departments had been shuffled back. So Teen'scape and Children's Literature were once again part of Central Library. And they didn't have a Principal Librarian, so the Principal II, was their boss. So I had Children's Literature, InfoNow, which was new, that had been started probably in the late 90s, maybe 1999. And I think Betsy Hoage was the person who kind of got that going. And so I was in charge of InfoNow, Children's Literature, and Teen'scape, and working with the Central Library Director, Cecilia Riddle. So it was very different, because it was like all of a sudden, I wasn't worried about children's books anymore. I was like, wait, you took them away from me. I mean, in a different way, because I could still have the Children's Literature Department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2686.78,2815.116"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e The youth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2815.12,2815.82"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I still had the youth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2816.38,2818.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e So it must've been interesting, all of a sudden being more of a supervisor again. I mean, obviously you are a supervisor for services, but it's such a small department. It is more services and then going back to, I mean, was that difficult or refreshing or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2819.96,2839.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it wasn't difficult, it was good. I mean, it was fine. I mean, I've been working with those people already anyway. And it, I'm not sure exactly how to put it. I mean, Children's Services was, it's a little bit awkward, which is I'm sure you know, because it's not a line position. So you have the responsibility for setting up programs and making sure that they make sense and that they work effectively, but you don't have any authority to make sure that they're implemented.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2842.9,2891.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2892.18,2892.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e So that was difficult and it was really difficult at that time because of the various interdivisional communications issues, shall I say. I mean, I'm not exactly even sure. Like, when I was in Children's Services at first, I was in Branch Library Services. And that was great, because I went to the Area Managers meetings and we could talk about things and they could tell me what was right and what was wrong. And that was fine. It was really good. But then after a certain amount of time, when they did some of their shuffling, then I was reporting to the Assistant City Librarian, and I was no longer part of Branch Library Services. And so I wasn't going to those meetings. And the Assistant City Librarian would tell me what she wanted to have done. But she wasn't a, let's have a meeting and talk about what happened in the administrative meeting. I felt like I was never in a loop, you know, it was like Children's Literature was meeting with Central Library and the branches were whatever and Children's Services were kind of like, okay, well, what are we, you know, there was nobody to kind of get feedback from or communicate with or send. But I mean, it had some good parts, like when when she decided something had to change and you went out and you told people that it had to change, it changed. It was not, there was no messing around with these things. So I mean, that was kind of good sometimes. But there were some real problems with communication between all of the different divisions as these changes were happening. So it was kind of nice to be part of Central and be part of one thing that was meeting and working together and trying to solve problems and deal with the issues that were happening in Central Library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=2894.54,3023.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3025.38,3027.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3027.5,3028.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that sort of thing definitely continued on. And that's why the Engagement and Learning division was created.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3028.68,3037.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, so you're sort of in charge of all of the overview system, activity program things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3039.06,3045.82"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. So as a Central Library Director, are there any particular projects or accomplishments that you're proud of?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3052.66,3060.67"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e I sometimes feel like I should be silent. You know, I was proud. I mean, one of the challenges that we had, and it was a big challenge, was that the budget was being switched around a lot, or the balance of the budget was being moved. So I think in my early days as a librarian, branches got a much smaller percentage. I would doubt if they got 50% of the budget and Central had the other 50%, I would say, if not more. And then as there were more electronic resources, Central's budget kind of kept getting whittled back. And staffing was cut back, too. And I guess the thing that I tried to do the most was to be an advocate for Central Library being important to the city. And to maintain the best possible collections that we could have and the best reference that we could manage with the staff that we had and the various challenges. But it was really hard because previous Central Library Directors were in other positions. And there was kind of a little bit of a prejudice against Central Library being overstaffed for the busyness. And it's hard, because when you walk around the building, it often seems pretty empty. And you'll see two librarians on the desk, and there's not lines of people. And the perception was these people are overstaffed. They don't need to be. You don't need to be as many people there as there are. This is ridiculous. And I'd say, well, if you have a central library, you have them there to answer difficult questions. And when you're answering a difficult question, you're not going to be at the desk. You're going to have to go off and help people in a way that you possibly can't in a smaller facility. And so you need to have two people so that you can actually do the work. And also in these really big floors with the sometimes challenging people who come in, just one person being by his or herself could be kind of dangerous. So we kind of needed two people for security. So I just tried to be an advocate for Central Library. And also with Central Library for branches, for being realistic about what the money that they had for their budget needed to be used for, for what the importance was for the system and how much some of the things we got were really needed. And we had a huge project where we went through every single standing order that Central Library had. And some of them we've had for decades. And some of them were important. And some of them were, when the orders came through and it was like, OK, this is $3,000 a year for this thing. And I'd say, well, go look at it. You need it. And sometimes yes, and sometimes no. And sometimes, just kind of think about what you're getting rather than just saying, well, we need it because we're Central Library. So kind of thinking about everything in terms of what's most important and most effective, which I tried to do. And I think when there were areas that were problems, I tried to figure out ways and work with staff to find solutions to the problems, because I didn't really like to hear a lot of complaining. So it's like, if this isn't good, let's try to figure out a way to fix it, because, you know, what's the point of being unhappy? That sometimes worked and sometimes didn't. But also, it's like when InfoNow started, Central was upset because those were positions that could have been, should have been part of Central Library. And they were taken away and put in InfoNow. And so there was some resentment and there was also some isolation of those people. So I really tried to work so that they were better incorporated into the departments, that they had meaningful work that they could do when they were off desk or when they were there on weekends or evenings, so that they felt more incorporated into it. And then a lot of them would promote in, or not promote, transfer into some of the departments when department openings came up. So it was kind of neat because the InfoNow people were general reference people who were answering questions on the telephone, and mainly telephone, from all over. So they were getting calls from all over the system about the whole system. So they had a real system perspective. And then when they went out, as they sort of started infiltrating into Central Library, they brought that with them. They brought that awareness of what was going on everywhere. That was good. We also...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3071.14,3443.567"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Actually that model that you set up is still going on today, with InfoNow librarians working regularly in the departments and so on. Right,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3445.64,3457.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e and if they like... InfoNow is really cool for some people for a year or a couple of years. Some people liked it and stay. But it's a good place to be for a while, but maybe if you've worked in Business Department or Science or whatever and you want to move and you can, then it's great. Or promote to a branch or whatever. So it's kind of a good entry level position. Although you really do need to know Los Angeles and or the system to be real successful because it's hard when people say, where's the Alma Woods branch? And you're like, uh... oh, Watts. You have to know what workplaces are. 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Loaded question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3509.2,3524.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it affected my work most dramatically in that it pretty much ended it. Because, I mean, I was not that old and I was kind of happy in my job and I wasn't really looking at retiring, but then they started offering people golden handshakes to retire and it was like, you know, I probably would have retired in four or five years, but they were saying, okay, we could have this lump of money and three years service credit and go now. And so I did. I was like, well, why not? And so it was very strange, because I think at the same time, I think a lot of the administrative staff left. And there was a new City Librarian. So that was a period of real upheaval for Central, or for the whole system. And it was hard because people were gonna be laid off. So it was like all of these decisions and that were gonna have to be made and people were laid off. I sort of felt like my career started and ended with layoffs. Yeah. And in between I would tell people who were worried of all the freezes, don't worry, I mean it usually works out, don't worry. And this last time it was like, no, it didn't work out. It was very sad. And budgets were cut terribly and it was just really hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3525.9,3630.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e It was a hard time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3633.62,3634.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3635.098,3635.598"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e So we're just about at an hour, which is fabulous. That went by fast. So I was wondering, you know, just looking back over your career, were there any people in particular that stand out as being memorable or had a big impact on you or this that you had fun working with? I mean, what were some of the big names?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3635.956,3660.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I mean, my first boss I mentioned at Northridge, Chuck Lush, he was a really good starter boss because he was always really supportive and also fostered independence. So you could always do what you wanted to do if you could figure out how to do it and make it happen. So that was kind of a good start. Jennifer Lambelet, who was the head of Adult Services for pretty much all of my career, was very influential. She was such a power in the library. And just, you don't even, I mean, she was incredible. And she died hiking Mount Kilimanjaro. She was kind of, she was just extraordinary. She was just like one of those people, take no prisoners. You know, She would tell everybody what they thought. And people were, I don't know, they really respected her and really, I don't know, afraid. But she was just really a strong personality, and also somebody who really, really cared about the library. She was in charge of training for a long time and orientation. And I was doing that with her for a while and then later doing it with Betsy Hoage, who was the Assistant Director of Branches when I was at Central. So, I don't know, there's just so many people that I worked with over the years that I really, really liked and really enjoyed. I mean, you know, friends, personal friends, work friends, just a good group of people. I mean, one of the great things about LAPL is that you can grow and you can move around and the system will support you as long as you want to do good work and you want to learn new things. So if you get tired of being a children's librarian, you can become a young adult librarian or adult librarian, or you can go into some sort of systems work if you get tired of whatever. So it's like there's always a chance to do something different. So a 30-year career can have lots of different jobs. A 40-year career. I mean, some people have been around a long time doing the same thing, and you know, God bless them. But It's really nice when you can do a lot and grow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3665.94,3830.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I agree. That is such a big system and such a complex system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3831.58,3837.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e Fontayne was one of, she was my boss at West LA and then when she became, she was the Principal II in branches when I first was in Children's Services and she was great to work with there. And then she became the Assistant City Librarian. Well, before that, she was in charge of all the building projects.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3838.62,3858.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Eva Mitnick:\u003c/strong\u003e I remember. That","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217#t=3858.92,3860.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/128791/file/241217/transcript/66957/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Anne Connor:\u003c/strong\u003e was a whole other experience. I mean all of those projects. 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And so as the Children's Services Coordinator, I would go in with Georgette Todd, who was the YA coordinator. And we would be able to offer some suggestions to the branches and say, no, you can't do this, or you shouldn't do this. That was nice to have some input into it. I'm not sure how much it helped, but we tried to help. 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