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Today I have the pleasure of interviewing Robert Anderson. Today is October 29th?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=13.14,28.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e 30th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=29.08,29.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e October  And we're recording at the Octavia Lab at Central Library. This is Robert Anderson is the Librarian III in the Literature and Fiction department. So what year did you start at LAPL and what positions have you held in the system?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=29.86,57.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, my, I started full-time in March of 1980, so before that I had done some substituting in the system for a while. When I was in library school, I actually worked as an intern, well, not an intern, but, well, we did have internships that we we did as part of our coursework in library school and I did mine at the Palms Rancho Park branch of the system which was in my neighborhood so I already knew the branch pretty well, but then I got to know it really well while I was working there for three quarters during my second year in library school. Then I got on the substitute list for the system, and I was substituting at various branches for a while. So I was working at that time at Atlantic Richfield, across the street from Central Library, because at the time that I graduated from library school in 1978, their economic times were rather difficult and there were gas shortages and they were... They had... Most library systems had their hiring frozen. So most people who graduated from library school were looking for jobs in related fields, but not particularly in public or even academic libraries. So I ended up getting a job as an indexer for the legal department of Atlantic Richfield, where I worked for about a year. So while I was there, my supervisor there was a former LAPL librarian who decided that she wanted to go into private library work. So she pointed out to me that not only could I substitute at branches but she had an in with some people at Central Library and she could let them know that I was right across the street and available so I started substituting at Central Library sometime in 1979. I worked in several departments there. I would work after my shift at ARCO, so fortunately we got out about 4.30 at ARCO, and then I would just come across the street and work the evening shift at the library a lot of nights, and I would work Saturdays pretty regularly at Central Library for quite a few months. So I got some experience working not only in Literature and Fiction departments, but also in Business, Social Science, Science department. I worked all of those departments pretty regularly for a while. Because they had this hiring freeze, they were able to use substitutes, but they were not able to hire permanent people for quite a while. So they had quite a few vacancies in various departments. Finally, they were able to start hiring, but I was pretty far down on the list. I did not get a good score on the librarian exam, so I was too far down for them. I was not reachable, as they always say, for those things. So they were not able to just hire me off the list, but thanks to, well, the librarians in Literature and Fiction who would become my supervisors. Kathleen Leidich was the Senior in the Fiction department at the time. They had a vacancy in the Fiction department. And she and Helene Mochedlover, who was the Principal Librarian at the time, were kind enough to hold the position for me until I got enough hours in that I had I guess the equivalent of six months experience and then they could hire me without worrying about where I was on the list. So that's how I got the job, and I stayed there since then. So I've been in the... It was originally a Fiction Department job, because Literature and Fiction at that point were more or less two separate departments. They had been completely separate departments for many, many years until the mid-70s. They each had completely separate staffs during all that time. They had separate Principal Librarians, separate Senior Librarians, everything separate. But in the later 70s, I believe it was in 1977 that the principal librarian in the fiction department retired and after a year or so they decided not to replace her and they made Helene Mochedlover, who was the principal librarian in the literature department, the head of the fiction department as well. So we still had separate staffs for the rest of, we still had two separate Senior Librarians. Everybody was officially either in Literature or in Fiction at that point, but in the next couple of years after I started, they gradually started having the staff work both reference desks. We had the two separate departments right across the hall from each other in the original Goodhue building. Fiction Department was where the Teen'Scape department is now and Literature Department was across the hall where the Children's Department workroom is now. So we would, after a few years, well, a couple of years into my work, we were primarily working in either Literature or Fiction, but we were also spending time on the other department's reference desk, and we did that up to the time of the 1986 fire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=58.26,463.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Great. That's interesting, because you were talking at that point. At that position, at that point you were a librarian. When did you, what were your, all the positions you've held in the system? I mean, is the way I counted is that you were kind of a probationary substitute librarian and then you were hired as a librarian by Katie Leidich and Helene. And then, at what point did you come to your current position?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=466.66,489.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. Well, so at the time that I was hired, they called, well, they called, we were all Librarian I's, and you stayed a Librarian I in perpetuity unless you promoted, because there were Subject Specialists in the larger departments, including Literature, and they were Librarian IIs at that point. But later, in about 1985, the Librarians Guild won a pay equity agreement with the city, and as part of that, they created these new positions. It was complicated. They had to do it for whatever reason. They didn't want to add more steps to Librarian I, so they ended up making this new... Well, Librarian II became kind of a new category where you could move up further steps automatically. At a certain point, after you had been there for so long, you became a Librarian II, automatically. And then what was previously known as Librarian II, Subject Specialists became Librarian III Subject Specialists. So the Literature Department had a Subject Specialist, and at that time it was a Drama Subject Specialist. The Fiction Department, being what was at that time considered a smaller department, did not have a Subject Specialist. The Fiction Department, just to diverge a little bit, the Fiction Department had been a much... It had been a large department in previous years, as large as Literature or History or Science or some of the other departments. But by the time I got there, it was quite a bit smaller as far as staff went. The reason it was so big was that for many years, they had a... Well, among other things, they were much more selective in their materials choices than they are now. Nowadays, we pretty much order anything that comes from the major publishers as a given, and we order everything from reviews and so forth. In those days, the staff used to read a lot of the books that would come in to decide if they would kind of, they would buy a lot more things on approval and the staff would read the books and decide, yes, this is library-worthy or this is not. And some of it would be based on if it was too ephemeral, or some of it was if it was too spicy or there were various criteria. They had a special review card that people would fill out that had all these categories like effect on reader, wholesome, pernicious was one I know. So they would circle the ones that applied and then they'd say, no I don't think we should have this in the collection. So they eliminated a lot of the kind of borderline cases as far as not-so-wonderful genre fiction maybe, or as I say, things that were a little too racy for the library, at least as they deemed it in those days. So the staff spent a lot of time doing that, and they also spent a lot of time... We had a fiction subject index, because the Library of Congress did not assign subject headings to fiction. So there was really no real, there was the fiction catalog, the print fiction catalog, but there was no other really good source for, if somebody came in and said I want I want a book that takes place in a certain place or I want a book about a certain somebody who's a certain occupation a fiction book featuring a lawyer or a doctor or whatever there was no really good place to look for that. So the Fiction staff would write little synopses and assign maybe two, three, four subject headings to the books. And then we had a clerical staff that would type cards for these, and they would type the little synopsis, and they would type a subject heading. And we had a subject catalog in fiction for pretty much every book that came in got added to it. So they spent a lot of time working on the fiction collection in terms of evaluating it and also giving it subject access. And so they had a big staff in the day, back in the day, in the 40s, 50s, 60s. And then it was... But the selection process was changing, various things were changing, and they were gradually reducing the size of the department. So by the time I got there, it was the Senior Librarian and three other, three full-time equivalent librarians. That was, we had two full-time and two half-time at the time that I started. And in the next few years, it got even smaller, and by the time of The Fire, there were just two full-time equivalent librarians plus the Senior Librarian. So it was definitely getting smaller and smaller. But anyway, to answer your... Now that I've gone into that detail. So... Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=490.58,863.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e actually, can I follow up? Two questions I had about that before you brought up so many interesting things. The cards are still, of course, in the...if you come to the Department, if anyone comes to the Department, they can still see some of these old subject cards, and they are like card catalog cards that are available to be seen. When did they stop doing that? And then the other question I had in regard to that was, you said that the, when did they stop producing those cards and then also did the clerical staff shrink as well, and the Fiction Department shrink as well as the librarian staff shrink? Was there, you said there was a lot, I mean do you remember the how many clerks were kind of working in the earlier days, and then what were they down to by the time of The Fire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=863.14,907.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, they were eliminating clerical positions as well. We had, I believe, if I'm remembering right, when I started, we had two Clerk Typists and we had a Library Clerical Assistant. Those categories don't exist anymore. Now they're merged into one category, but it used to be that there were certain positions that required typing. So we had two Clerks that typed up all the cards that we were still producing, and we had the Library Clerical Assistant was mainly in charge of sending out all the books that were requested by branches, and processing all the books that would go out to branches and come back from branches. So we had those positions and then we had maybe four or five MCs, Messenger Clerks. But it was gradually, it was a much smaller department than it had been in the years before I was there. And we stopped the full fiction subject catalog, we stopped it after The Fire because there was really no really good way to go on with it for a while. And also, more sources were being produced by that time. There were some print sources and some other things that were covering what we were doing. So the decision was made that because we were down in terms of staff and The Fire had complicated things so much that we would only focus on the California portion of the subject index, which had always been the specialty of the department, was creating a special California Index, which not only included the fact that the book took place in California, but the time period it took place, and the locales in California. So since then, that's the one thing we've been focusing on. And around that same time, we started doing our files online InMagic databases, and so we didn't have to have... The clerks could... They still had to type up the records, although sometimes the librarians could type them up online, but we didn't need all the clerks typing multiple subject cards as we had had for years. We would have them, they would type the same little plot synopsis and then they'd type three or four of those with different subjects at the bottom so they could be put in the card file, but we we stopped the card file after The Fire but anyway to get back to what happened and how I became a Librarian III. That was several years later while we were, that was during the time that we were on Springs Street in the temporary library in the early 1990s. And there again were financial hard times and a number of positions were eliminated throughout the system. Quite a lot of library positions were eliminated in the early 90s. One thing that they did at the time, which they were going toward anyway, was that they finally decided, okay, Literature and Fiction are now completely one department, Social Sciences and Philosophy are completely one department, and History and Genealogy are completely one department. And as such, they eliminated the three second Senior Librarian positions in those three areas. So they eliminated the Genealogy Senior, the Fiction Senior, and the Philosophy Senior positions. So those people either had a choice of... And instead, in sort of as a kind of a consolation prize for getting rid of those positions, they gave each department, each of those three, a Librarian III, Subject Specialist position in those particular areas, fiction, philosophy, and genealogy. So the people, the Senior Librarians who had those positions had the choice of either reverting from Senior Librarian to Librarian III and taking those jobs or going to a vacant Senior Librarian position somewhere else in the system. So in the case of my department, Literature and Fiction, the Senior Librarian went back and forth on it for a while, but finally decided to remain a Senior Librarian and go elsewhere. And that's when I ended up interviewing for and getting the Librarian III fiction position, which I believe was in 1991. I'm almost certain I'm right about that. So that's where I've been ever since.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=908.74,1248.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Great. Who was the Senior Librarian that left?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1249.02,1252.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, yeah, that's sort of a complicated story too, because we had the two Senior Librarians at the time were Anita King was the Senior Librarian in Literature, Bette McDonough was the Senior Librarian in Fiction. So Bette was the one who was the odd woman out, I guess you'd say, who had to decide what she wanted to do. And she really didn't... The only positions that were open were branches, and she had worked as a branch librarian, branch supervisor in her previous system. She had come from Fresno County system to LAPL, but she didn't want to go back and work at a branch. But she, so she kind of, for a while she thought she would take the Fiction position, but then she finally decided that she would leave and take a position. It was actually the branch position at Lincoln Heights Branch that was open at the time that they gave her. And she did get an agreement at the time that if and when the remaining Senior Librarian position was vacant in the department, that she would have first rights to it. So, several years later, she was back in the department as the Senior Librarian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1253.18,1342.69"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e What year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1342.88,1344.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e That would have been about 1994. It was a complicated situation because the Senior Librarian in Literature, Anita King, had health problems. She was not well, but for financial reasons she had to go on working. It was sort of a sad situation all around. And so there was sort of an assumption that she was not going to be there that long, but she needed to be there as long as she could. And I believe it was not very long after we moved back to Central Library, which was in late 1993, so it was sometime in 1994, I'm sure, that Anita finally had, her health got to the point where she finally had to leave. And so Bette came back at that point. So she was at Lincoln Heights, I believe, for about three years and then returned as the Senior Librarian in the Literature and Fiction Department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1344.76,1412.298"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Excellent, thank you. So I'm gonna circle back a little bit because I wanted to make sure you you did describe how you got kind of got started in the system but I wanted to ask you what your path to librarianship was in general like how to what made you want to become a librarian. You said that you were familiar with your local branch when you were growing up maybe and let's just like to hear about that and what why did you come to LAPL specifically? You kind of described you were local you know to some of that but I'd like to hear a little more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1412.8,1443.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, well, I, yeah, I, it was one of those things that I had a, I felt pretty early in life that I, that that was something, you know, librarianship was a career that I was interested in and might like to pursue. I know, yeah, I did grow up in the Los Angeles area so that my two, the two branches that I went to of the Los Angeles system were, when I was growing up, were first the West LA branch and then the Palms Rancho Park branch. And I was a big reader, so I spent a lot of time at those libraries. And I was impressed by the staff that helped me there. And I... Do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1444.28,1496.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e you remember where they were located at that time? Because I think they're not where they are now, correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1496.32,1501.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, they were, well, the first branch that I went to was West Los Angeles when I was a small child, which is where it is now. It was on Santa Monica Boulevard, the same spot as it is now Santa Monica and Purdue. And it's actually the same building. They renovated the building, but for some reason, they didn't tear that building down. I don't know why. A lot of the branches got completely torn down and new ones built on the same side. But for some reason, they kept the framework of that particular branch. So it looks pretty much as it did now. And so that was the one I went to when I was the youngest and then... 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And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1555.38,1556.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e then about, I believe it was 1964, they built the Palms Rancho Park branch in Palms Park, which was at that time a new building. Now it's gone. It's already been... I can remember being so excited that I was going to have a library, because that was right down the street from my home. So it was quite exciting to know that there was going to be this library that they were building just a couple of blocks away. There had been a previous Palms Branch that was further south in the Palms area, but this branch, they had just opened the Palms Park a few years before. It had been a private estate that got turned over to the city and they turned it into a park. Just when I was a small child, it became a park. And then they decided, well, this is a good place to build a permanent library. So they replaced the library that was down on Woodbine Avenue in Palms. It was replaced with this new building on Overland Avenue. So from about 1964 when I was, I think I was about in fifth grade when that was built. So from that point on, when I was going through junior high and high school, that was the branch that I mostly used, although sometimes we'd go over to West LA if they didn't have something at Palms. But anyway, those were the two branches that I grew up using. And I know that, and I remember, one thing that I remember influenced me a lot was that when I was in junior high I took a special summer class one year, an English, summer English class, and we went on field trips to Central Library and to Powell Library at UCLA as part of the class. And I remember I was so impressed with both of them. I don't think I had ever been in either building before, or if I had, I hadn't spent very much time there. So, that was something that really made me think about a library would be an interesting place to work. 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I actually worked over in the research library, but I spent a lot of time in the Powell Library because I was in library school at UCLA, so I...and that at the time, the library school was in the Powell Library building. So I did spend a lot of time in that building during my college years. But...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1717.1,1744.147"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e The library was a big point, getting back to. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1745.28,1747.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e it was a big big thing and as far as visiting both of those and I remember in in high school we had in 10th grade we all had to take a guidance class where we sort of thought about what careers we were going to go into, and we had to write reports on three careers. And I know one of the ones that I wrote about was library work, definitely. So I was definitely thinking about it even then. And So then I was one of those people who just went from undergrad, I went to UCLA as an undergrad, majored in English, and then I went right into library school, also at UCLA. So I really had no major experience working in libraries. While I was at UCLA, I worked, as we were just saying, I worked at the Circulation Department of the research library for several years. And that was an interesting job too, definitely. I enjoyed it. And at that time I thought, I guess just because I had, when you're, you kind of think of a career in an area that you're familiar with. So by the time I was in library school, I had spent quite a few years going to the university library. So I thought, oh, I'd like to be a university librarian. And then, so that was what I told them, you know, when they said, well, what would you like to specialize in? Oh, I think I'd like to be a university librarian. And then, for whatever reason, when it came time to do an internship, The positions at UCLA were all spoken for by other people in my class. I guess I hadn't been very proactive about trying to get one, so the head of the internship program said, well, why don't you try the public library system? It doesn't really matter. You just want to get some experience. So I went and talked to Kathryn Carr, who was the head of the Western Region, Principal Librarian of Western Region for many years, so she had an office at West Los Angeles Library and she already had an intern from UCLA too at the West LA branch, but she said, you know, why don't you go over to Palms and ask the Senior Librarian there? And she said, I think that would be a good idea. So I did. I went over and talked to Alice Paloney, who had been the Senior Librarian there for about 10 years. And she was amenable to the idea, so I spent my internship there at the Palms Rancho Park branch. And that sort of drew me back into public librarianship. And I came to realize that there were interesting things you could do at the public library too. And so that's why I ended up looking more in the direction of public libraries when I graduated from library school and after this sort of interregnum period where nobody could get jobs in libraries. I kind of focused on public libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1747.64,1974.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e And what were some of the interesting things that you realized that you could do in public libraries?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1975.2,1979.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I found out that there were... I always enjoyed doing the reference work and I found out that at some of the branches you got a lot of interesting questions too. And you could, we'd get phone calls and you'd could find quite a pretty good percentage of the things that people asked about in those days. It's much more than now. People would call the libraries with a lot of kind of short answer trivia type questions that now everybody would Google it and find the answer. And in those days, you might need the World Almanac or the encyclopedia or something to look it up and tell them the answer. So they would call us on quite a regular...the phones rang a lot and we'd get a lot of questions like that. Yeah, and I found out I really, I enjoyed working with the public too. I enjoyed doing one-on-one work with the public and helping them to find what they were looking for. So those those were the kind of things that I found that I thought I enjoyed. That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=1980.16,2066.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e great. So then but you then, you know -- what was the transition to Central? You mentioned that a little bit -- you went to ARCO then from Palms to ARCO.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2066.28,2075.954"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well yeah after I looked around for a job and I could, as I say, all the librarian jobs were pretty much, most of the systems were just not hiring they had frozen their hiring and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2076.58,2091.226"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh right so at Palms you were still an intern. Yeah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2091.38,2093.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I was still I was an intern at Palms yeah so I was just I was just there for a few so I was looking for the job my job and then I found the one that happened to be the one that I found, which I think was a stroke of luck, happened to be right across from Central Library, because otherwise I don't know that I would have made it as far as making myself known to the Central Library staff. It just happened that, as I said before, that I was, one of my supervisor there at ARCO pointed out to me that she had, she was substituting at the library across the street, and I had been substituting at branch libraries, mostly in Hollywood area and Central area, and enjoying it. But it also meant that it was a little bit of a trip after I would leave my job at ARCO at 4:30, then I had to get out to a branch in the evening or get to one on Saturday. And she said, well, you could just go, they're looking for librarian subs across the street at Central Library. I'll introduce you to a couple people, which she did. And so they started using me and then so the word got around to different departments that I was interested in working there. So that's really how I got onto the Central Library and got some attention from the Literature and Fiction department in particular. But yeah, so I got the ARCO job, just it was in the legal department of Atlantic Richfield. And I don't know that we need to hear all the details, but it was an indexing job. And a lot of the people who worked there were either people who had been laid off, they were either librarians who had been laid off from libraries, or they were paralegals who couldn't get regular paralegal jobs at that time for whatever reason. And we would go through whatever case was going on with the legal division at ARCO. They would give us these sheafs of documents and we would go through them and index them. Now it would all be online and you wouldn't need people to index them and then key punch them into a database, but that's how it was done then, and then once the keypunchers keypunched our indexing terms back into the database, then we would get these big printouts and we would go through and proofread the printouts. So that was the job that I was doing there. It had some interesting elements, but I knew it wasn't what I wanted to do for the rest of my life that's that's for sure. 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How did that work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2271.22,2290.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, you had to be on the librarian list in order to become a substitute. So that's what, as I recall, it was, yeah, I got on the list and then I got my score and at that time they weren't hiring anyway, but I didn't do very well on that. But anyway, they weren't going to be hiring for a while. But then I believe I had to go back in and do another, a more casual kind of interview just to get on the substitute list. I think that's that's sort of what I remember. I actually went into Central Library and a couple of people talked to me. Do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2290.44,2332.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e you remember who interviewed you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2332.58,2334.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e There I don't remember who interviewed. I remember the original interviews that I took were, I remember those quite well, but I don't remember who interviewed me for the substitute list. Do you want to know who interviewed me for the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2334.22,2352.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, sure, were they librarians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2352.44,2353.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, at that time, the librarian exams, they generally had two Principal Librarians and somebody from City Personnel. They had three interviewers. And so, the first one I did, I did two interviews and unfortunately the second one I did even worse than the first one, which was kind of sad, but the first interview, the two librarians, the two Principal Librarians were Barbara Clark, who was the principal librarian of, I believe at that time she was the Principal Librarian of the inner city bookmobile. That was a separate, I believe, or maybe for the bookmobiles as a whole, maybe that was it. And then Nina Wilson was the Principal Librarian for the West Valley Region. And when I interviewed the second time, and then there was somebody from City Personnel as well, was the third person. But the second time I interviewed, it was again Barbara Clark. So maybe there's a pattern there, I don't know. But she interviewed me both times, and I got terrible scores both times, so I sort of had this feeling like, maybe she doesn't like me, But I don't know. I just wasn't a good interviewer, I guess. But the other person, the second time, was supposed to be Joan Bartel, who later became the Assistant Central Library Director. At that time she was the Principal Librarian in the Business Department, and by that time I had been subbing in the Business Department, so she disqualified herself from interviewing me. So it was only Barbara Clark and the person from City Personnel the second time. So that was, I do remember those interviews quite well. And I really thought I was going to do much better on the second interview because I had all this experience and I had very, and I sort of had learned things from the first interview and I thought, oh, now I know what I'm doing. But it turned out I didn't. So anyway, that's, as I said, I ended up, you know, still too low to reach and I had to... So they just... Helene and Katie would... They just were... They were great. I appreciated so much what they did for me, that they just let the position stay open and they let me, they gave me as much sub time as they could. I would even come in, like on Fridays, when we closed at 5:30, they would have me come in for an hour. Every hour counted. So I would come in from 4:30 to 5:30 on Fridays and substitute for one hour. And they didn't need me to do that, obviously. They could have handled an hour by themselves, but they were just trying to get me up to that total so they could hire me. 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I don't remember ever actually interviewing for the position, which is interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2544.08,2550.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So once you got a certain amount of hours, then they just hired you? Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2551.1,2557.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e that's what I remember. They said, okay, once you get up to these hours, then you'll be able to get the job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2557.12,2565.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e That's great. Bless Helene. So, and you did mention that there was a hiring, there was difficulty hiring at this time. This is the late 70s, right? So there was a recession, that was what that was probably about? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2566.06,2577.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2577.28,2577.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e just to cover that.  great. Thank you. That's wonderful. So you've described some of a lot of the different positions you've had in the system. Was there anything particularly memorable about your time as an intern, a substitute, or even in your current position? I'm sure there's a lot of things, but there's anything... That's kind of a general question and I probably will cover some things, but there was anything like about being a substitute at that time? I know for one thing the hours were later than, right? I think we were open until 9.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2577.62,2607.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Actually it had already changed. It changed in 1978, I know, because it was when Proposition 13 passed. So when I was an intern, they were in library school, they were still open until 9, so I would go to, I think I worked maybe one night a week at the Palms Rancho Park Library as an intern and sometimes I worked in the afternoons or sometimes I think it was just maybe one evening or so, depending on what my schedule was maybe I worked two evenings, I can't remember, but at that time I would work like five to nine or something like that when I worked in the evening. But yeah, by the year that I graduated in 1978, Prop 13 had just passed that June, so that was one of the first things that the city did, was cut the hours back at all of the libraries from 9 to 8, because it involved the fact that you could get the shift differential on the days that you worked till nine o'clock, half your hours were after five o'clock. So you were entitled to a shift differential. And it wasn't a whole lot of money, but when they did it for doing it for the whole system, it added up to a lot of money. So at least they felt like it was enough money to do something about it. So they cut the last hour and it's never come back. That's one thing that has never returned, that 8 to 9 hour. So by the time I was a substitute, that we were only open, the branches in Central were only open till 8 o'clock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2607.88,2712.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But they'd started, was it 9 to 9 before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2712.5,2715.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it was 10 to nine. But it varied. I mean, some branches didn't, like now, some branches didn't open till 12:30 or one or something like that. And the Saturday hours were strange too, at least strange by today's standards where everything is pretty much the same. But in those days, some branches were open 10 to 5:30 and some branches were open 9 to 1, which always seemed to me when I was subbing there, like it was the strangest time to be open. And you closed at 1 o'clock, which was sort of just when people might be coming in and waking up and coming into the library. And there didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to why some of the places I remember working at, well, what's now Durant Branch, and it was then West Hollywood Branch, and they were only open nine to one, and that was a pretty busy branch. And I don't know why that was, and Fairfax I think was only open nine to one, but yeah, so it was kind of strange. There were some that were open 10 to 5:30 and some were open nine to one. But it was, yeah, working as a substitute was quite interesting. It really, I enjoyed learning about the different branches, and I got in, I really developed this, you know, my routine for going to a new one and, you know, taking a walk around the branch to see where everything was and looking at all the things that they would have at the reference desk for the substitute or what, that might help a little bit. And relying a lot on the clerical staff that was there that day. Because sometimes it's the smaller branches, I would be the only librarian there on a Saturday. So yeah, and in the evenings usually, in the smaller branches I was almost always the only one, librarian there. So It was, we were, people like me who were substituting were very reliant on the clerical staff, the regular staff, to know what was going on. It was, yeah, and I enjoyed my Central Library substituting experience too. It was interesting to get to know the staff in the different departments and the way each one operated. Just like now, they all operate in kind of different, surprisingly different ways sometimes. Sometimes the ways that the different departments here at Central Library operate are quite different from each other in certain aspects.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2717.22,2895.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e I wonder if that's through tradition or like, probably the different Senior Librarians had that, was there like a personality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2897.72,2904.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I think a lot of it is, yeah, probably some of it is just it goes on for years and years and for instance, in Literature, we always, we still switch, usually our evening hour starts at five, whereas everybody else tends to start at 5:30. And that goes back to when I first started in Fiction. Fiction started at 5:30, but Literature always started at 5. So that they, because they want, some of them wanted time, they always said they wanted time to get their things together when they were working the day shift. They didn't want to stay longer than they had to and if they we're on the desk until 5:30, then they had to spend time getting their things together. So that was always the reason that I heard why they did that. But anyway, we still are doing that 5 o'clock switchover today because when Helene took over the Fiction department, well, I think she let us go on with our 5:30 thing because we were okay with it, but Literature always had to be 5 o'clock switch. But the other departments do that too, so, or I mean, they don't do it, they do it the way that fiction used to do it. So that's just a little tiny example. But I think there's a lot of those that sort of add up over the years. And then they become a tradition, and everybody adheres to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=2904.96,3001.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So in some sense, though, it was grassroots. The Literature Department, the people that actually, the staff actually wanted it that way. It wasn't imposed from the top at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3001.56,3010.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, yeah. Yeah, that's what, yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, sometimes it might be a particular Senior Librarian decides to do something a certain way and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3010.68,3019.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Everyone gets used to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3019.96,3020.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e But everybody gets used to it, yeah. That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3021.02,3023.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e great. So there's, I mean, another question is kind of you've already touched on is during your time with LAPL, in what ways did it change and how did it stay the same? Again, this is very general, but you've already described, I mean, a lot of it, I think, for you, one of the interesting things is before that we were here before The Fire. So what were some of the things that was like working in Central before The Fire that might have changed after? I know, of course, the index file cards, the subject and files you've already described But was there like that's part of digitization is kind of a one of the things that changed. Can you speak to that? Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3023.16,3057.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e of course one thing is that after the when we reopened in the temporary library after The Fire, we then had an online catalog. We no longer had a card catalog. And that was a big difference that we, up to the time of The Fire, there were just the card catalogs everywhere. We had no automated system. So every department and every branch, too, had its own card catalog. And then there was the big central catalog at Central Library in the Rotunda. But we all had the individual catalogs, but we didn't know what branches... They didn't know what other branches had. They didn't know exactly what Central Library had. Nobody, everybody in the system knew what was, they could look in the catalog and find out what was in their particular agency, but they didn't know what other branches might have a book that somebody asked them about that they didn't have in their collection. They didn't know. It might be at their regional branch, it might not be. So it was a very different process in those days and there was a lot more telephoning than there is now. I mean not just... Some of it was patrons calling because there was something that they didn't find at their neighborhood branch. Some of it was staff calling because they had somebody who had come in who wanted a book that was not in their collection. So there was a lot of telephone work that went on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3057.98,3170.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Meaning that they would call?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3173.72,3175.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e They would call, the branches would tend to call their regional branch first. It would depend. I mean, they would get a sense of, if somebody wanted something from like 70 years earlier, then probably it was only gonna be at Central Library. But if they wanted something that was 10 years old or whatever that they didn't have, then they might call their regional branch first and ask them, and then they would call Central Library. There was an interlibrary loan system, but it was very work-intensive, too. They could find out from the regional branch what other libraries might own. They had these paper records that would show what other libraries had bought the books if they were fairly recent books. Then they would fill out a little interlibrary loan slip and with all the branches, the branch numbers on it, and they would send it to the first branch on the list. And by that time, some of the branches may have already withdrawn the books because they were just going on these old interlibrary loan records that showed who had originally bought them. And this was, it might be five or ten years later. And some of these branches, either the books had been lost or they had been withdrawn. And so they would send it around the system in these envelopes. They would send the little interlibrary loan form around and the first branch would get it and they'd look for it on the shelf and if they found it, great, then they would send it back to the branch that wanted it. But if they didn't find it, they'd cross themselves off the list of branches and they'd send it on to the next branch. And so it could go to four or five branches before somebody actually, so it could be really a slow process. So that was why a lot of people called because they could get around it that way. So that was one thing that was different in the early days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3175.24,3302.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e What would be the longest you heard about a book actually being, to the point it was actually being found and sent, like, I mean, the patron, it could be forever, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3303.16,3313.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e It could be several weeks, yeah. But of course another thing is that we had the record that we had of what we had in the closed stacks was all based on the IBM cards that had been produced for the system, which can still be seen in many of the old books in the library collection. And that was a circulation system that was bought for the library that unfortunately never came to fruition because, at least from what I heard, the person who was in charge of the company that was hired to produce the system ran off with some of the money or something like that. So they produced these IBM cards that went in every single book, including the IBM cards for the reference copies. But then there was supposed to be a circulation system that went along with that, and I was familiar with it because they had a circulation system at UCLA that was like that. 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It wasn't Recordac, that was a separate...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3397.92,3401.5"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, Recordac was the system we were still using by the time that when I started, which was the system where you just took the card out of the book and you made a photo. There was a machine that made a photo of every... They would have your library card and the card for the book and you'd make, they'd do a photo of each book, the card of the book as you checked it out, every single book. So there was this big photographic record on microfilm. But anyway, that was the old system, which they then continued to use until we got an online catalog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3402.7,3449.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But in the interim, there was this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3450.48,3452.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e But there was this other system that was supposed to come in, which as I say, we used it at UCLA and it involved... So you would take the cards out, you would have the patron's library card, which would be a plastic card, you'd put it into this machine, then you'd feed whatever the cards for all the books they were checking out into the machine. And then overnight, the system would produce more IBM cards, so you had a whole IBM card file at your library of all the things that were checked out. So if you went and looked at, say, somebody went to the shelf and they couldn't find a book, then they would come to circulation and they'd look through all these IBM cards. And so it was only, it was not, it was automated, but it was only semi-automated because it still involved all these drawers of IBM cards. And then you'd have, you'd go through and, ah, it's checked out to somebody. And here's the person it's checked out to. So if it was a professor at UCLA, you could tell the person, oh, this professor has this book checked out and you could talk to them about it. 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So all we had was the cards, but we couldn't use the cards for the purpose that they were intended. So the cards just became... They became a file of what was in the these closed stacks. So we had at each department we had these big drawers of IBM cards that were all the reference copies in the collection, there was a card for each one, and also all the circulating copies that were in the closed stacks. So if you went to the shelf and you didn't find the book, then the next thing was you had to go over and go through these cards and, oh good, there's a circulating IBM card here so we'll send the clerk to the stacks, or some card, and if there was, if it was reference only, they would write \"R Only\" on the card, so if we, that way we would know that we didn't have a circulating copy of something. But if you didn't find a card, it wasn't on the shelf, then you would assume that it was checked out and you'd have to place a hold. And the holds in those days were postal holds. That was a whole separate complicated thing too, because people would have to buy a postcard for 25 cents as it was for a number of years. It later went up to 50 cents before we eliminated the postcards and that kind of reduced the number of people who were buying them. But I know when I worked at branches and even at Central, there were people who would come in, like when I worked at Palms Branch, people would come in and say, give me $3 worth of postcards. And they would fill out the card, they were the people who would read all the bestsellers or people who went through the New York Times Book Review and the New Yorker and so forth and they would put holds on all the new books that they read about there. So they would put up loads of holds on. So the holds were all based on this postcard system where you'd fill out the postcard and address it to yourself and pay the 25 cents. And then you'd have, what we would do, we had what were called VisiFiles, where you would place the postcard, if it was for something that there was only one hold or two holds, they were files that you kept at the circulation desk, and also in the departments, departments had their own VisiFile, and you'd put, so they, It's sort of hard to describe, but they would have little slots on a page or whatever, and there would be these little slots that you could stick the postcards in, like one above another, and at the bottom of the postcard you'd write in either the author and the title if it was a fiction book, or the call number if it was a non-fiction book. And so these VisiFiles would have a list of, there would be, on a number of these separate sheets of paper, they would list all the books that currently had holds on them for your department. So when everything came back, you had to check everything that got returned from circulation against these VisiFiles and then pull the... If you found one, then you'd pull the postcard and that would go off to the patron and you put the book on hold for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3541.96,3769.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e That was done every day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3769.94,3770.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was very, everything that came back had to be checked against it. And we would... And of course, there were books that bestsellers that had at branches, they would get like 40 holds on things, 30 or 40. So they would keep, the ones that had huge numbers of holds, they would keep at the reference desk with a rubber band around them. And we did that at the Fiction Department too, because we had we didn't get as many holds as the as the branches but we got a lot and So we would end up with maybe 15 or 20 holds for one particular book at a time. So those would be such a stack of postcards, you couldn't put it in the VisiFile, because the way the VisiFiles were set up, you could only have maybe one or maybe two postcards in the slot that you would put them in. So we would keep the big stacks of them at the desk and we would just put like a dummy record that would show the clerk that there's a bunch of postcards at the reference desk. But so it would just be something that showed that there were too many postcards. So that was a major thing. 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Separating out the labor-intensive process you're describing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3856.56,3883.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I think there were a lot in those days, but I think when they introduced the current system where everything could be held online, and of course they were free, I think that was the main thing, because by then they had gone up to 50 cents so I think it went up it went up a huge amount of course when that became known that that people could do hold for free so I think --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3884.2,3914.852"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e In the events of the holds with the postcards, just to clarify.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3915.06,3918.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, the postcards were, yeah, as I say, they've charged 25 cents and then later on 50 when the postal rates were going up and they needed a little more money for the system. So I think that it definitely went up when the new system went, I think it's not as high as it was when that, the new system first went into effect. I think the holds have gone down just like the use of print, just because the use of print materials has gone down. But of course, I guess if you've included all the holds that get placed on the ebooks, it may be that it's higher, maybe it's higher than it's ever been. I don't, I don't, it's so hard to know because now there's eBooks in the equation too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3918.48,3968.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, but from your experience, the time when it was probably busiest would have been when we reopened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3968.86,3973.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's what I would say like the early year. Yeah, we didn't have the online holds right away when we reopened after The Fire. We didn't get those until a few years, it seems like it was at least a couple of years after the reopening in '93. It must have been later in the 90s sometime that they hadn't developed that particular part of the system yet at that point. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=3973.26,4002.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e was CARL then though, right? 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I'm pretty sure we still were doing the postcards at that point yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4014.52,4021.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Interesting, so many questions about that but we should probably -- we can come back to those later. But that is a huge change, right? That's one of the things that they do. That's, that's, that's a big talk about how it changed. And in what ways are, is the job the same? I mean, obviously, you know, in reference interviews, they're similar, but there's a lot less phones, as you were saying. But how did it stay the same?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4022.6,4047.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I guess the, well, I mean, there's hardly anything that's exactly the same as it used to be. I mean, it's still a system where the staff does the ordering of materials, but of course that has changed too over the years, exactly. Now, for quite a few years, we've been using Brodart, and they generate the Tips Lists. But when I, so yeah, it seems like anything that I think of, there's things that have changed. They may—it's sort of hard to think of something that's exactly the same because—other than the fact that we still sit at reference desks to answer people's questions at reference desks and we help them find the materials that they're looking for. So that part of it is the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4050.04,4113.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But yeah, you've seen a lot of changes. What staff members have had a big impact on your career at LAPL? Obviously Katie Leidich, and Helene Mochedlover are both, you've already expressed that. Are there other, unless you want to say more about that, but are there other people that were really influential?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4114.2,4133.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they, as far as my job, they were, I would say they were the two that had the largest influence on me. And I met them both when I was pretty young and I was at a pretty impressionable time of my life. So they both made major impressions on me and sort of changed, changed some things about the way I did things...( ) As I've said, I, you know, I would, I will be eternally grateful to both Helene Mochedlover and Kathleen Leidich because they were the two people who, when I was a 25-year-old inexperienced substitute librarian, they saw something there that they thought was what they wanted for this particular position that was open, and they were willing to go to bat for me with the Central Library Administration, who I'm sure were urging them to fill that position right now. And they managed to persuade them that they, to hold onto it for me. So, but aside from that, they both were very strong personalities and they both had, and they were very different from each other, but I will say that. They both had particular ways of doing things that made a big impression on me... as I say, it changed my outlook on a number of things. Just, I mean, not special, not just in terms of library work, but sort of in terms of my own philosophy of life, even. Because they were just very memorable personalities. And I really, I'm very lucky that I got to work with both of them. I also really, during my internship, I worked a lot with the Senior Librarian at the Palms Ranch and Park Branch at that time, Alice Paloney, and she was another big influence on me. She was a very interesting person. She had worked at the Library of Congress before she came to LAPL. She had a lot of very different kinds of library experience and she would, since I was a student librarian at that time, she spent a lot of time talking to me about the different jobs she had had and the different considerations in terms of the position she had then, the Senior Librarian position she had then, and the way the whole system was set up. So I really appreciate what she did for me in my early career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4134.64,4327.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e And of course there was the substitute librarian at ARCO who got you in the door here. But if the two, unless you want to talk anything about that, since you did bring it up, if I could just follow up what you were saying about particular ways of life maybe that changed from both when working with Helene and Kathleen Leidich. So you had just mentioned that they were really influential, but do you want to speak to anything in particular or an example of something Helene taught you, or I'm sure there are many, but if there's just one you wanted to bring up that springs to mind, same with Kathleen. Well, I mean, it's a lot and kind of really fundamental.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4328.8,4368.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's sort of hard to come up with one particular thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4369.64,4378.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we can come back to it if you'd like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4379.38,4381.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e OK. Yeah. I'll come think about it. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4382.88,4385.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe think about that. Yeah. So was there a favorite patron interaction? I know that you've had a lot of influence on a lot of patrons. When I first came here, people would ask for you directly. Patrons would ask for you directly, especially when I was new, they were like, didn't, so yeah, do you have any in particular you remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4385.28,4404.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah, of course there's a lot of people I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4405.12,4409.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you have a favorite? It's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4410.5,4411.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e kind of hard to say exactly, but you know what, if there was a favorite one, I mean, I, for some reason, I remember a lot of the people that I worked with before The Fire, I remember some of them very clearly, I guess just because it was a new situation for me at that time and I was meeting people that were different than people I had known in my life. So there were some very interesting people who would come in. I can especially remember there was this one older couple that would come in on a regular basis and the wife was she was kind of crippled she was sort of hunchbacked, and she had some difficulty walking. And as I say, they were fairly elderly. The husband was not in great shape either. And the wife was the one who brought them to the library because she was reading, she read old 1919, 1920s, 1930s mysteries. And she would come in and check them out and bring, and then they'd come back in a couple weeks and bring those back and get another batch. But they were, they were just such lovely people and they, I mean, they were, they were not, you know, they were not physically attractive, but they were beautiful inside. They were just...I know that at that time I was working with Dan Dupill, who was... who later went on to become Principal Librarian in various jobs at Central Library, but he was the other Fiction Librarian for a couple of years when during the time that they were coming in and I remember him saying to me after they left one day, \"Now that's really what love is all about,\" because they were obviously so devoted to each other and he would carry all the books out because she really wasn't capable of carrying stuff so he would always be along to...he was not in the, as I say, in the greatest of shape either but he at least could carry six books or something like that. But yeah, they made a big impression on him and also on Dan and on me at the time. How's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4411.64,4581.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e your throat? Do you need some water or something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4581.36,4583.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I think it's okay. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4584.14,4586.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e This, you know, this is a big, We've got probably another half an hour, maybe a little less, but this is a really kind of a, and I did want -- oh, before we do move on to that, since we're talking about patrons and we're in the Octavia Lab, do you remember Octavia Butler being a patron?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4587.84,4604.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yes, yes, she used, she would come in before The Fire and then she also came in in the early years. I don't remember whether she came in while we were in the temporary library. I can't really remember whether she came in while the four years we were on Spring Street, but she certainly was, she came in after the library reopened, I know that. She may have come in on Spring Street too, but I know she was, she came in before because, and we were aware that she was an author because she had already, in the early 80s, she had already published the first of her, I think in the late 70s, actually, she, maybe she published her first books. So she was a known author at that time. She was not as famous as she later became, but she was certainly, everybody at the library was aware of it. She was very friendly but quiet. She was reserved. And you didn't want to ask her too many questions because you sort of felt that she was a private person in many ways. She was not somebody that you wanted to go on at length with about her writing or anything. But yeah, she would be in the library on a regular basis and sometimes would be looking for some particular item. Sometimes she was just there browsing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4605.1,4704.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Did she ever work at the library? Meaning that she would stay at the library or would she come in and take books and leave?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4705.46,4712.014"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't really, I don't remember her ever seeing her sitting at a table or anything like that. She may, she may have, but it was more I think that she would come in and maybe browse the shelves and maybe had something in mind sometimes that she was looking for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4713.0,4730.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember any titles, or ...it's a long time ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4730.8,4733.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it's too long. I don't know what she was looking for. I can't remember anymore. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4734.76,4740.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e was just curious if it was science fiction or it was probably a whole gamut of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4740.6,4744.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Probably a lot of different subjects.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4745.06,4747.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Widely read. Anything else about her that you... I mean, that's pretty great though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4747.37,4752.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e That's about what I remember is just that we always were, it was always kind of nice to know that we had this, fairly well known, and then later, she did be, by the time we had reopened, and later in the later years, she was getting more celebrated by that time. And so, by that time, she was a pretty well-known author. And so it was, people were impressed when you would tell them, \"Octavia Butler was here today.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4754.06,4793.461"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So she still even, when she was famous, came...I know she ended up moving toward the end of her life. I think she moved to Seattle. But you were... For","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4793.94,4800.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e at least a while there after the reopening she was, she was coming in. That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4800.72,4807.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e great. Do you remember any other famous writers or -- I know, I mean, I've seen actors and, you know, come to our department, probably it was more common before The Fire, do you remember? Yeah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4807.04,4819.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm and of course I'm not that good with faces, so there may have been some people I talked to and I didn't even realize I was talking to them. But I don't remember too many others that were... I mean, yeah, we would see actors once in a while. Yeah, I just remember this sort of funny story about the day that George Hamilton came to the library and we and that he he actually requested some book that we had to get from the fiction stacks and there was there was this one table that was in front of the reference desk, that we had this one eccentric patron, Mr. Dixon, who always sat at that table, and he would, I mean, he was there most of the day, most days, and he would go off and get something, like some lunch, or he would wander around the building or whatever. But most of the time he was sitting at this table and they actually moved the table around the department at different times, sort of trying to get rid of him. And then he would follow it around to wherever it happened to be. But anyway, he was sitting at... So anyway, George Hamilton came in and Mr. Dixon happened not to be at his table at that time. And so, the book that George Hamilton wanted was in the stacks, so we had to retrieve it from the stacks. So he just went over and sat down at the table, which was the closest table to the reference desk, and everybody, until the person came back from, the MC came back with the book, we were all extremely nervous that Mr. Dixon was gonna return because he was famous for rousting people from his, \"Get away from my table!\" And so fortunately for us, he did not return during those minutes that we were waiting for the book from the stacks. We were all picturing what this confrontation was gonna be like and how we have to intercede with. Anyway, that was one story I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4819.72,4956.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e There are other writers, of course, I think probably, you know, Charles Bukowski.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4956.9,4960.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, he was famous for using the library, but... I don't remember ever seeing... I think that was more... that was earlier years, I think. Oh, I know who I did see sometimes was Joseph Hansen, the mystery writer. He would come in on a pretty regular basis in those earlier years. Yeah, I don't think he ever came in after, I don't remember him ever coming after The Fire, but he definitely, he and his wife and I think his sister would come in and they would use the Literature Department and the Fiction Department. Right,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=4961.38,5005.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e because he was a poet as well, right? Did you remember any, like would they use it, would they stay, or would they just get books, or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5005.76,5015.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it was more that they would come in for, I think they came in for specific, I don't remember what they were reading specifically, but I think it was, I don't think they would sit there and read for extended periods of time, but they, it was more that they came in and they got what they wanted and they left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5015.54,5036.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, right, right. But that's great. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5036.2,5038.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I know one of his books, I think it's, let's see, it's not one of his main, the Dave Branstetter, which is his main series, but it's another... It's another book of his that actually has a scene that takes place in Central Library. So he definitely was familiar with the building.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5038.04,5057.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. Right. Well, we have about 20 minutes. I would like to get into where you were at the time of The Fire. We're probably going to have to come back to it. But I would like to at least get started. Do you feel comfortable starting that now? Because I think it's about, we've got about, probably about 15, 20 minutes, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5057.93,5078.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I guess we can always do it another day, too. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5079.06,5082.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e look forward to that. That would be great. So, it's the, you were employed, obviously, at the time of The Fire. And what were you doing when the alarm went off?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5082.98,5091.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I know you've heard the story before, but I will repeat it here. So, well, that particular day, I was up in our closed stacks, which, of course, then we can get into a whole thing about the closed stacks and how they were arranged, but which would take a while in itself. That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5093.92,5117.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e something that's crucial though, because a lot of people ask about where The Fire started. So that would be helpful. But yeah, if we just want to focus on what you were doing at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5117.18,5125.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e It was, well, what the situation was, I --we were already at that point thinking in terms of that we were going to have to be moving out of the building sometime in the next few years because they were going to be renovating the building. Part of what had to be done was the closed stacks had to be cleaned up because they were a mess. They were not only were they they were extremely overcrowded, but part of being overcrowded was that there were books piled on top of books. There were even there were some that were they were jammed in like every corner you could you could find a place to jam books in and they were -- and at least in certain sections there were, some sections were better than others, and but but a lot of it, it was it was quite a mess. What all the departments were ordered to do was, okay, you have to get your clothes stacks in good condition so that they're just in a row on the shelf and there's not books sitting on top of books, because when we move them, we've got to move them shelf by shelf, and we can't be dealing with all these books that are wedged in here and wedged in there. So we all, we had been told that we had to go through and get the books in order. So that involved weeding some duplicate copies of things. It involved moving some books down to the open stacks if there happened to be a little room there. It involved shifting, because sometimes one section would actually have a little room, and so you had to move things around. So I was assigned, I believe A through C in Fiction was my part of that job. I know I had started with the letter A and we had to do it two hours a week. And It happened that my two hours were 9 to 11 on Tuesday morning, and the day of The Fire was a Tuesday. So the first thing I had done when I came in that morning was I went up to my section to work on it. I was in the middle of the Bs at the time of The Fire. I can remember I was dealing with James Blish that day. So I was part part way through the B's, so I had I had already gone through all the A's and got everything in neat order on the shelves and it had taken quite a while. So we had been doing this for a while, because there was a lot of books to go through. So I was in the middle of this whole process and somewhere in the Bs. So I went up there and it was on, well, I guess we have to say that The Fire started off of the Fiction Reading Room in the closed stacks on what we called the fifth tier of the closed stacks. Do you think I should get into now the different tiers? It's a little too complicated. No,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5127.26,5331.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e but if you could just... We'll","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5331.68,5332.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e have to come back to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5332.48,5333.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Actually, it's crucial, but let's circle back. But you can kind of say where it was in reference to how the Rotunda is set up now. I believe it's kind of near Teen'Scape. Yes. Where that is. But please, that would actually be helpful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5334.18,5346.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. It's where the, it's where the teens, because the reading room of Teen'Scape is, was, was the reading room of the Fiction Department and so the the closed stacks were were just off to the side of the department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5346.38,5366.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So if you were a -- somebody coming today, like somebody visiting the library, where would, if you could kind of, if you were to direct them where The Fire started, they would go to the Teen'Scape reading room and where would they look from there? They","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5366.48,5378.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e were, they were near, near where the offices are and the, and the fiction collection of Teen'Scape. They were, they were in that area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5378.94,5386.974"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But The Fire was still in an area that's not accessible right now. It's just kind of... Okay, but you're in... It's kind of off that area. Okay. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5388.38,5397.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e it's just off the the Teen'Scape reading room. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5397.62,5403.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e if you came in the door to the reading room, but didn't enter the main part of Teen'Scape as it is now, if you were entering the kind of metal, you know, the door that they open, if you're entering into the fiction room, which direction would it be? Like 10 o'clock from the door would it be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5403.58,5418.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well I would say, well -- it's pretty close to that whole area where the where the fiction where the fiction collection is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5418.48,5438.546"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So the back wall of where fiction is, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5440.24,5442.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Kind of over over there yeah that that area and but actually more of closer to where the offices I'd say closer to where the offices are. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5443.44,5456.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e if you're going into the door of Teen'Scape from the Rotunda, it's actually to the right. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5456.04,5460.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e it's to the, yeah, but it's, yeah, if you went in that door, which was at that time, it was the back of the Fiction Room, because the Fiction Reference Desk faced the other direction towards, towards Literature over where, yeah, over the direction where the Children's Department is now. But so that was, yeah, the entrance from the Rotunda. The back, well, like the main stairway there, if you went in that way, you'd have to go in and go around the corner of that L-shaped part there and yeah, it's over on the right of that L-shaped room. It's to the right of that was the closed stacks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5460.8,5509.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So if it's -- basically, if you're entering the door that's opposite the elevators, the brass elevators, right? You're entering that door, it would be up, it would be to the right and up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5509.12,5519.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, where the fiction books were shelved was the next level up, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5520.06,5524.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So but just for people that are visiting now, you enter that doorway, it would be to the right and up, right? It would be maybe above where the ceiling is, just generally speaking. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5524.2,5534.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I guess, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5534.28,5535.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So you were there, let's, sorry to get off the, but it is, people do wonder. So yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5535.8,5542.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e The staff, but the, the, the, where you went in from the Fiction Department, where you went into the closed stacks was, we had, the Fiction staff had a desk in there for the clerks who sorted the books. We had a sorting area in there, but the rest of that level that was on the same floor as the Fiction Department, the Fiction Reading Room. The rest of that was devoted to art magazines. It had been at some point, I think -- there were fiction books there before my time, but the Art Department ran out of space for their magazines, so that was the closest place they could find to move them. So they moved a lot of the fiction books down to the basement of the building. But we still had fiction books on the tier above. The A through J of Fiction, all arranged by author, was up on the tier immediately above the reading rooms, what we called the sixth tier. And so that was where I was working that morning, up on the sixth tier. So to get there, you went up one little flight of stairs because the stacks had very low ceilings. And so they were not the whole height of a regular room by any means.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5543.1,5626.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So the stairs you go up, I know, was roped off and said, you know, \"staff only.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5626.38,5629.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, there was a little, there was a little rope across it that said, you know \"staff only\" and you could also go into the the stacks through the -- well, there were there were ways of going in through, there was what's now Access Services, or General Library Services as it was called in those days, had, they had, because that was the circulation desk, one of the circulation desks was off of the, was there at the Rotunda on that side. So they had offices there that you, they, you could go in that way too, but to those stacks. But yeah, the main... So anyway, I was up on the sixth tier, and I would, in the course of what I was doing, so I was there from 9 to 11. And I would go up and down the stairs, like as I said, sometimes there would be books that I would, well I don't have room for these up here, but maybe there's room downstairs, or I would be checking to see if we had other copies of something downstairs. And so I went back and up a few times, I know, in the course of that shift. And apparently The Fire started right below, or at least at that tier, right below where I was, not directly below where I was working but somewhere pretty close by there. So the Fire Department later asked me a lot of questions about,\"did you hear anything?\" No, I didn't. I didn't hear it and nothing that, nothing that I noticed. Of course there were people, there were all these employees moving around down there. So one wasn't like there was any, there were any special sounds down there. But anyway, I was there for two hours working, and so I was just getting ready to stop. I had found a good stopping place and I was just about ready to stop when the alarm, the fire alarm went off. And I was up there, I had taken a book truck up there in our staff elevator, which I'll have to talk about at some point too, the old staff elevators and the closed stacks. But anyway, I was up there with a book truck and some books that I had put on the truck that I was gonna take downstairs. And when I stood up, I know I told the Fire Department later, I smelled a little smoke. And I didn't think a whole lot about it because we often had light bulbs burned out there or something. But I thought, oh, it must just be a light bulb that burned out and that must have set off this alarm. But I went down... 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Like there had been an alarm that had gone off?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5809.08,5812.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, the lights in the building were, there were a lot of old electrical systems, and I know the old fluorescent lights in the reading room would pop sometimes, and so there were things that had happened like that. So I didn't really think too much about it, except that It wasn't like there was, I actually saw any smoke or anything. So maybe if I had turned my head, I would have seen it. I don't know. It's one of those things that I think about over and over and over the years. What if I had turned around and seen that there was smoke coming out. Then I could have -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5814.72,5852.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e You didn't think you would have seen smoke. But you definitely-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5852.97,5855.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I mean, I just, I smelled like, and I mean, I feel like I smelled smoke, but I didn't smell it before the fire alarm went off. So it wasn't-- so then it was such a low level of smoke that I didn't, wasn't even aware of it until I was thinking, \"oh, fire alarm. I wonder if there's smoke, yeah maybe I smell something.\" But it was, yeah, so it was, anyway, so it's hard to say, would I have seen some smoke if I had looked a different direction? I don't know. But of course, the fire alarm went off, so I immediately got up and I went downstairs. And for some reason, the person at the reference desk in Fiction was not there at that point, and the patrons who were in the department were still sitting at the desk. So I told them all they had to leave, and we were very accustomed to fire alarms in the building. We had quite a lot of them, either people maliciously setting them off or there would be things where there would be little smoke fires involving light bulbs and that kind of thing. And so we had them all the time, and I didn't think anything of it. It was one more fire alarm. And so we got everybody out, and I went down, and we all, in those days, we all would meet in the parking lot, which is where the McGuire Gardens is now. So we would all, we usually all just, we didn't, I don't think we met by department or anything in those days. We just all went out there and stood kind of near the building, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5855.74,5972.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e There -- the parking lot there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5973.08,5974.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e There was a parking lot at that time. And so we stood out there and waited and waited and the Fire Department came.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5974.94,5984.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e You didn't see any smoke at this point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471#t=5985.06,5986.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120247/file/225471/transcript/63310/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Initially, we didn't see any smoke. And then I remember somebody pointed up and said, \"Look.\" And we could see smoke coming out of the upper levels there. 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