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I am the senior librarian of the Los Angeles Public Library photo collection. And today I am sitting with Ken Feder, a long time employee of LAPL who was with us from 1980 to 2015. So it is August 29th, 2024, and we are recording from the Octavia Lab at Central Library. So welcome, Ken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2.15,25.01"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Good morning. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=25.01,26.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e just to kind of get us started. So we already kind of addressed it. But tell us, you know, when you started with LAPL and what positions you had in the system over the course of your career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=26.42,35.93"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I got hired in 1980 as an intermittent sub, I think they called it, which allowed me to work as a sub librarian. And I worked in three regions-- Western, Central Southern and Hollywood. I guess I just didn't want to go over the hill on the 405 too much. So I stayed kind of, you know, more in this part of town. And in 1980, later in that year, they started interviewing for some positions, and I interviewed at Palms Rancho and at the Venice branch. They offered me a children's librarian position and a half time YA [position] I chose the YA because I really didn't have any background in children's work, and I thought it might be a, you know, a better fit initially. So I started, I think, in August of [19]80 at the Venice branch as a librarian. And that's when the Venice branch was on California Avenue. And then later in the 90s, they rebuilt a new branch on Venice Boulevard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=35.93,113.51"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you recall how long were you doing the subbing for before you got the the permanent position?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=113.51,120.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, I have a good memory for dates, so I my first day subbing was April 29th [1980], which is an interesting date because six years later that was the library fire on that date. I remember I started the first day was at the Exposition Park branch. It was on Vermont across from USC. Now it's on Western, I believe. And then I started at Venice as half time YA in August of that year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=120.38,155.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was pretty quick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=155.54,156.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=156.56,157.88"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So what was your path to librarianship in general? And then why did you specifically want to come work at the Los Angeles Public Library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=157.88,167.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I was kind of an avid reader starting from around age 10 or 11. I remember my mother getting this big box of Oz books that she had from her childhood, and all of a sudden I had all of L. Frank Baum's beautiful illustrated books with colored plates. And I started becoming an avid reader, I guess, at that time. The funny thing was that I graduated high school a semester early, and I went to a community college, and I took an interest test and one of the top 3 or 4 career paths that I mentioned was, you know, library work. So you know it kind of like, planted a seed in my mind. So when I was an undergraduate trying to think of, what am I going to do? Did I want to teach?You know. Well, there was-- I knew that there was a thing you could get an MLS and become a librarian. So that kind of planted the seed, and I followed through on that as it turned out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=167.06,253.49"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Where did you get your undergrad at?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=253.49,255.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I went to UCSB as an undergrad, and I started majoring in English. And at the time, you needed two years of foreign languages, to complete a BA in English--at least at UCSB. So I started taking French from scratch. Now I had two years of Spanish as a junior high school student. I wasn't a particularly good Spanish student at the time. I didn't really get verb conjugations and stuff, that came later. So I started, actually at UCLA, I took the summer kind of an intensive French thing that summer, then in September, I started at UCSB, basically as an English major. But what happened was on the UC campuses, they would start promoting this year abroad program. And I started enjoying my French classes, and I thought, oh, well, maybe go to France my junior year. It sounded like a good deal. So I think that kind of started me sort of like on the path to the foreign languages department, as it was called back then. I enjoyed studying French literature and after graduating from UCSB, I took a year off and I lived in Berkeley for a year. I had made some good friends that were Berkeley students during my year abroad in Bordeaux, and I just kind of wanted to, you know, live up there. And while I was up there, I started taking Spanish classes again and a semester of German at a junior college, just because I guess I had the the language study bug or something, you know? And during that year in Berkeley, I applied to library schools, and I got into UCLA and decided to go to UCLA. I applied to a few other schools--Oregon. Washington. Berkeley--but decided to come back to L.A. for library school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=255.38,422.59"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And so were you raised in Los Angeles?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=422.59,425.95"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I grew up kind of in the Pico-Robertson area. I went to Hamilton High School.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=425.95,433.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=433.0,433.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Our mayor, Karen Bass, was in the class of [19]71, my brother's class. I was in the class of '72. So I was in good company there. Yeah, I went to all the the public schools and then UCSB and so I was at UCLA for library school. Now, an interesting thing at UCLA was so I started the program there. And then, just by chance, I found out that they had what was called an articulated degree program with Latin American studies. And the summer before I had gone to library school, I had been in an intensive Spanish course in Guatemala--it was only four weeks, the course, but it was six hours a day, one on one teaching, living with a host family. And so I sort of got Spanish grammar down. So when they told me about the Latin American Studies program, I was able to pass the Spanish proficiency exam and got in. So I was doing like two MAs [masters degrees] at the same time, which was interesting because Latin American Studies was an interdisciplinary program. There was literature, history, sociology, political science, and I was very interested in Latin America because I had just been down to Mexico and Guatemala. So that's what I was doing, you know, at UCLA was library school and Latin American Studies. Now this is 1979, so the Proposition 13 had passed, so the job market wasn't that great [in] both in public libraries and academic libraries. I was kind of positioning myself to work in an academic library and I sent out some applications. I remember sending one to Tulane [University]. They wanted a Latin American bibliographer, but they wound up hiring somebody with a PhD, and they were paying $12,000 a year. But around that time, somebody mentioned, well LAPL is interviewing. So I went in and interviewed for the substitute position, which was, I guess at the time they didn't maybe they had a job freeze on permanent positions, but they needed subs. So I interviewed for that. And you know, I got on the sub list.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=433.72,624.01"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember like approximately how long it took you from, like, interviewing to get on the sub list at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=624.01,632.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it was pretty quick. It might have just been a month or two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=632.14,635.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. So that's incredible. So despite the financial difficulties that the state was having. You ultimately got a full time job with LAPL pretty quick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=635.74,645.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Well it was a half time job at Venice, so when I transferred to International [Languages], which is a whole other story, I was still half time and they had a hiring freeze on, so I had to transfer as a half time. But then I became full time in [19]82-- year later--they managed to unfreeze the position.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=645.52,673.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So I just want to go briefly back to your languages. So you studied French and Spanish and became proficient in both of those, as in German as well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=673.06,683.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e No, German was just a semester. Well growing up, my parents spoke Yiddish, but they didn't speak it so my brother and I could understand. It was sort of like a secret language, which they used when they didn't want us to know it was what they were talking about, which is pretty common. I wish they had taught me Yiddish, it would have been nice, you know. My brother and I were sent to Hebrew school, which was also pretty common to get on the bar mitzvah track. So I could read the Hebrew characters, which actually came in handy because we were--after the fire, we were doing inventory of books at the processing center on Spring Street. And so I had to read the titles and whether the book was published in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv or Buenos Aires. So the Hebrew and the Yiddish came in handy you know, later, even though I just really knew the alphabet, not the language. I would say my French was was pretty good while I was 20, 21 years old, and I was an undergraduate and I was living in France. And then, coming back to L.A., I wasn't using French as much after I graduated. But I was pretty proficient with the written-- and reading and writing and then it became rusty over the years because I don't use French, you know, all the time. And Spanish--well, I would say that I had Latin American studies, so I knew about the region pretty well, but I would say that my Spanish was high intermediate. You know, I'm pretty honest because people either say you're fluent or you're not fluent. I wouldn't say that I was fully fluent in Spanish. I was striving to become fluent and my ability to read and write was sufficient to doing collection development, which is what they wanted. They wanted somebody to select Spanish books for the department. So I did have adequate background for that because I had interned with the UCLA Latin American bibliographer and just being on the job here in the foreign languages department, seeing what people wanted to read. You know, it was everything from auto repair to Garcia Marquez. So, you know, I just tried to buy the books that people wanted, along with the classics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=683.38,891.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. So just going back. So you end up getting the, the position at Venice. What was the neighborhood like at the time? In the early 80s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=891.1,903.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e This was before any of the gentrification. So I remember the street the library was on--California [610 California Avenue]-- ended right near Abbot Kinney. And that none of those upscale restaurants and stuff like that were around back then. It was pretty rundown, and it was considered kind of a gang area. Oakwood [neighborhood]. I mean, there were rumors that the gangs were going to be clashing, and I remember an MC bringing a gun to work because he lived in the area. I mean, he showed it to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=903.04,950.07"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e He had it for protection?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=950.07,951.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. But I don't remember any real bad incidents. Back then, I remember that we did have a security officer at Venice, Rick Wright, who started working here at Central years later. Ricardo Wright, I think is his first name-- Oh","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=951.66,976.371"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e yeah. --but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=976.371,976.47"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e he probably retired about ten years ago or so. But yeah, he was there. And then the senior at Venice was Ann Giani, who was very active with the Guild--Librarians Guild. So she got me to join the Librarians Guild right away. And, you know, that was a good staff there at Venice and I enjoyed it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=976.47,1003.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And was it a branch that was used heavily by the community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1003.2,1009.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, there was a fair amount of patrons. It wasn't--I sub there these days, I mean, I'll be subbing there next week, I think and it's changed a lot. It's mostly people that want to use the internet. There's a lot of homeless, things are under control. I think they have two security aides. I'm not sure what their what level of security it is. They're not wearing the dark blue uniforms. They're some kind of security, but they seem to keep things under control. But back then, it was fairly busy. We had a lot of regulars. We had kids coming in. We had, you know, small kids, teens, adults.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1009.08,1068.25"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And how long did you work at that branch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1068.25,1072.21"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's see. About a year and a half.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1072.21,1075.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. So, coming into the library system, did you have your sights set on Central from the beginning? Or did you know there was the foreign languages department? 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It was on paper.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1097.71,1104.88"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e They do, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1104.88,1105.69"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe it's online now exclusively, So I saw International Languages [Department] pop up as an opening. I mean, this is late in my stay at Venice branch, you know, like around maybe a few months before I actually transferred, I saw that they had an opening in International Languages. So that's when it kind of came up on my radar. I mean, I had been to Central Library before, I was familiar with the building. I think, you know, as a kid, sometimes I would come downtown with my dad and we'd go up Angel's Flight and the Central Library and Grand Central Market and stuff. Philippe's French dip, you know, kind of do a tour of downtown. So I was aware Central Library and the pyramid and the whole thing. But I didn't really set my sights on it as a destination until that transfer opportunity came up. Now, one of the things was that we had a very detailed orientation program somewhere during the time when I was at Venice, where they took all the new librarians in the system, and we came downtown and they gave us a tour of every department including non public departments like cataloging. We also became familiar with, you know, the branch system and bookmobile. So I got to meet the staff of all the subject departments at Central Library, and I remember going to foreign languages and meeting Sylva Manoogian and Selma Benjamin, who was the senior librarian at the time. So I was kind of familiar with the department when it came up on the transfer sheet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1105.69,1225.59"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And I don't know if you recall--because it is it is specialized, I think, more so than a lot of departments in that you have to have some level of proficiency in another language. Do you remember if they were looking for a specific language at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1225.59,1242.63"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what had happened was there was a librarian by the name of Elsie Becker that I had never met because she passed away in 1981, the year that I transferred. And that's why they had an opening. And my understanding was she was in charge of Spanish and Italian. She might have had other languages in there. But she passed away, so there was a need for somebody to at least cover Spanish. So they were looking for somebody that could work with with the Spanish language. And I called Sylva up on the phone just to check in with her, to say that I was interested in, you know, applying for the transfer position. And we hit it off pretty well on the phone. Sylva had been born in France, so she was basically a native speaker of French. Her English was, you know, not accented. I think she grew up in the Boston area and she was Armenian, so she spoke Armenian. And she also had studied Latin and Greek. So we kind of hit it off. I mean, I think I probably mentioned my year abroad in France and, you know, we were both Francophiles and so she explained what they needed. They needed somebody to work with the Spanish collection. I told her about the Latin American studies, and so she set up an interview, and I came in probably a few weeks later for an interview with her and Selma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1242.63,1360.65"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And so Sylva, the was she the senior [librairan] or the principal [librarian]? 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Each department had a principal librarian at central. 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And then coming into the department at that time, what were some of the job duties that were assigned to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1383.33,1394.61"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, half the time was on the reference desk, which was pretty interesting reference because it was a lot different than the branches. So I was assigned reference. The main thing was working with Sylva-- I think the whole landscape of collection development has changed over the years, but at the time, the foreign languages department was doing a lot of direct buying of Spanish books, and they also had a relationship with Multilingual Services, which at the time the librarian in Multilingual Services was Sylvia Flores Johnson and later Frank Navarro replaced her. And then Pat Cuesta came in to replace Frank Navarro, who promoted, I think, and Pat Cuesta was there for like 30 years or something in Multilingual Services. So we worked pretty closely with Multilingual Services, but we also did a fair amount of direct purchase from various catalogs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1394.61,1474.23"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And then did you have did you have to type out cards for the card catalog? Is that a librarian task in your department? Do you remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1474.23,1481.97"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I think that was mostly a clerical task.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1481.97,1487.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So you kind of touched on it a little bit, but during your time, because you were with LAPL in--it was called the Foreign Department, and then eventually it was changed to International Languages. 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I don't know, I'd have to look at the-- Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1505.1,1552.53"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e I think there were five different locations where the collection resided.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1552.53,1556.85"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e And so the word foreign maybe to Sylva or whoever was she was working with--with Betty Gay or, you know--they thought, well, maybe we should come up with a new name. So they settled on International Languages. I don't know the entire thought process that went into it but at some point, we were called International Languages. I don't know if the name change went into effect when we were still at Spring Street, but but by the time we got here in [19]93, October 3rd is when the first day was open to the public. You know, the the sign said International Languages Department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1556.85,1604.99"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. And it's been that ever since?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1604.99,1606.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1606.52,1607.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And just thinking about your time with LAPL, can you think about what ways the profession or just even LAPL changed and maybe kind of some of the things that have stayed the same, whether that's operational or kind of like the culture of the library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1607.54,1629.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, of course, the internet really changed everything in terms of reference because we could handle a lot of pretty obscure questions at Central Library, you know, including in Foreign Languages department. But it seemed that reference questions kind of morphed when people could Google things. So it became more a matter of things that we only had on print that weren't, you know, searchable online. We had we had a lot of books that have never been converted to any kind of electronic format. But as far as the reference questions, I think that was greatly influenced by the advent of the internet. So you were asking also about how the atmosphere of the library changed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1629.02,1692.59"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Has it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1692.59,1694.84"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, back in the [19]80s, it seemed that we would have staff meetings of the entire building in the auditorium on Spring Street. But it seems like in more recent years, like the past 20 years, there was less of a feeling of cohesion, of knowing the entire staff of the building, because in the '80s, we really knew everybody in the building, you know, because we went through the fire together and people were working together from different departments. But now it seems to be a little bit more, um, you know, people maybe keep to their own departments more and there's not these group meetings. So you know, there's more of a--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1694.84,1747.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e It's siloed. I think that's a fair statement. Yeah. And just thinking about the reference questions--what is reference like in International Languages? Because I was a reference librarian in History. So we have this, you know, collection that does a lot of specific things. But what types of questions are you fielding? I mean, are you fielding like history questions that somebody who can't--they only speak French. Like is that getting fielded to you? Like what types of reference did you handle in International Languages? I would think it would be all kind of all over the board.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1747.52,1783.73"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Like one good example was if you look at the back of a dollar bill, there's some foreign language phrases. And somebody called up and they saw, Latin and Greek phrases in the back of the dollar. And, you know, what does this mean? Well, we happen to have a Latin and Greek phrase book of common words. Of course, most people might know what e pluribus unum means. You know, one out of many. But there was other phrases that they would call up, like in that example, the dollar bill. I was able to find it pretty quickly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1783.73,1830.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And so was it primarily translation questions, or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1830.2,1835.21"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we would get a lot of people that only spoke Spanish. So they would generally be looking for materials either in the foreign languages department or they needed some kind of, you know, guidance to navigate Central Library in their language. So, you know, they might be looking for something in science, but they couldn't really articulate it in English what they were looking for. They wanted an auto repair manual that didn't exist in Spanish or we didn't have. So they needed help to be pointed to the right floor and call number. But basically it could be anything that any other department could get. It just happened to fall within the domain of foreign languages. You know, they'd be looking for novels or, you know, literature or some kind of non-fiction work in another language or or they wanted statistics sometimes about like how many languages are spoken in L.A. So we had a lot of vertical file material, you know, clippings from the L.A. Times about what languages are spoken in L.A.--ranked by the number of people or whatever. So I was becoming familiar with what was popular and it was it seemed like it was Spanish and there was a lot of Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, because those communities were growing fast in L.A., and we were adding some new languages, like we added Hindi at one point and some other languages, you know, just trying to keep up with what people wanted in L.A.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1835.21,1955.57"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And so in the quote/unquote \"new\" building, which is now 35 years old, but our Bradley Wing, where all of the subject departments now reside, International Languages is on the first floor. Do you think it might have been strategically placed there as kind of a first point of contact, in case people were not English speakers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1955.57,1975.31"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a good question. I don't know why they chose the first floor. I was I was good with it because you didn't have to go up and down elevators or stairs to get in and out of the building or--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1975.31,1990.67"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Evacuate for our many fire alarms that go off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1990.67,1993.85"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And you could see the outdoors. And we had a nice break room that looked out towards Grand Avenue. And that was kind of interesting. One time I saw a Seinfeld episode being filmed right out the window. Grand Avenue being a stand in for New York City, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=1993.85,2015.45"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I've always resided on lower level for where I have no windows, so I do envy those of you who have had sunlight during your careers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2015.45,2024.63"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2024.63,2025.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So in thinking back over your career. Are there staff members that really come to mind as having had a big impact on you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2025.44,2034.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Well, I was thinking about that, And actually I do have a list in case I, you know, draw a blank. But when I transferred to International [Languages], I was really impressed with the staff, not the fact that they were like multilingual, it was just they were all interested in personalities. And it kind of reminded me, you know, like being part of a group like you would see maybe in a TV show like Taxi or The Office, and all of a sudden you have this group of people and they're all interesting personalities. I initially met Sylva and Selma and they were both, you know, very European--very warm and open--I was impressed with their multilingual abilities because Sylva had like, six languages. And Selma Benjamin was a Holocaust survivor who had lived in England after Hitler came to power. And then she moved to L.A. with her husband, and I think she was a teacher for a while, but then got into the library system. So she spoke German, French, Italian, Spanish and, you know, was working on her Yiddish and Hebrew. And she was very musical. And so it seems like and Sylva was also very musical. It seemed like the musical abilities and foreign languages seem to have an interesting tie in. I guess it's just being sensitive to sounds and things like that. So Sylva was part of a choir, as I remember. And Selma played piano. Yeah, the staff was very interesting. There was another librarian who was Hungarian who did the Hungarian and German [collection development]. His name was Laszlo Szabo. Same last name as the City Librarian, but pronounced differently. And those were the three other librarians. It was a small staff. There was, just in clerical staff, there was Tanya Noscoff, who was Bulgarian, and she was a real polyglot also. There was a clerical--I guess a clerk typist, I'm not sure of her classification the-- Carrie Lauer, who was pretty young at the time. I was about 26 when I transferred over, and she was maybe 22, but she had after she left International [Languages], she went to History department and she became a librarian, I think half time. And she was in the system up until just after the fire. And then she went on substitute status and she moved to Santa Barbara. So yeah, Sylva, Selma and Carrie were big impressions on me. Carrie was--I talked to her like at length--they said, I'm going to be interviewed, and I said, I don't want to say anything bad about you. What can I say about you? And she says, tell them that she's a medievalist. I said, okay, you want to be known as a medievalist, I guess. So she hasn't proved to me that she's a medievalist, but that's her claim. But she became a very good reference librarian. I went to see her when she was subbing at Woodland Hills, and I was very impressed by just how thorough she was with patrons. So, you know, you have to give the subs credit. A lot of them have a lot of experience and they do well with patrons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2034.56,2308.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e You had mentioned you had originally been kind of leaning towards an academic library, and I think it's fair to say in many ways, by working at Central Library, you kind of are, you know, working in an academic library. So, you know, your patron base is going to range wildly. But the collections, you know, I think rival probably some universities. Wouldn't you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2308.72,2334.97"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, definitely. I mean, we had--I'm not sure what the count is now, but we had something like 50,000 books in Spanish, which is, you know, a pretty sizable collection. I mean, the biggest public library Spanish collection in Southern California, as far as I know. Of course, UCLA, USC probably would have more [titles], but more academic type collections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2334.97,2363.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And then switching over to the patrons, are there any patron interactions that are particularly memorable in your career?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2363.2,2371.39"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. During my early years at Foreign Languages, before the fire here at Central, they had me go to some schools. Although I wasn't really a YA librarian, there were some requests from--well, one was from Manual Arts High School to visit an ESL class and talk about the Central Library and what we have here. So I went to a class at Manual Arts, and the teacher, Paul Malevitz, became a friend, and he was a real polyglot. The kind of thing that you see in the Guinness Book of Records, you know, like somebody that speaks 15 languages and just soaks things up as a sponge and kept on saying, you should have gone to library school and you would have been really good in my department. And so he would come in occasionally and I was just very impressed by just the way he could soak up languages like that. I mean, I had to really sort of work pretty hard for my French and Spanish, but he would just kind of, you know, start taking Arabic and Chinese. And, you know, I was pretty amazed at that. And there were a number of patrons who were kind of like that would just be studying all these languages and they would come into the department and they would ask for grammars and like six languages at the same time. So Paul was a memorable patron. Well, we had a lot of regulars, you know, like every department. Some of them, we didn't like so much because, you know, they could be difficult people but I remember a few. There was another polyglot--a man by the name of Shinzen Young, who was a meditation teacher who's become kind of very prominent in Buddhist circles, sort of because he's written a lot of books about meditation and enlightenment. And so he's kind of a name in Buddhist studies, but he used to come into the department and ask for all these dictionaries in South Asian languages like Pali. And he knew all these languages. And I was so he was another polyglot. He knew all the languages that were related to early Buddhism, you know, and what it was was-- foreign languages department had collections of books in 28 languages, but we also had dictionaries and grammars and like hundreds more. So we had pretty obscure. Languages, you know, anything from Native American languages that might have died out to, like I mentioned, Pali and other Sanskrit stuff like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2371.39,2589.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow, that's incredible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2589.28,2590.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e So Shinzen was using it Central Library as kind of an academic library because it was closer to where he lived in Koreatown. So I remember him coming in a lot. And there was another patron who had this incredible story about the Holocaust. He was in his 80s. He had a tattoo from a concentration camp, and he had this incredible story, and he was impressed when he pulled out this Yiddish book that he was looking for that was published in Argentina after the war. That was an early version of Elie Wiesel's Night. And he had this whole kind of story about Elie Wiesel and how he knew him at the camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2590.54,2645.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2645.14,2647.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e And it was pretty incredible. And so, yeah, that was another memorable story. And I think he's written about it also. But yeah, just a lot of interesting patrons. I remember Joel Rane, who was a librarian in Literature. He wrote a little self-published book [Scream at the Librarian] about some of the regular patrons and some of the patrons that he knew in Literature we shared in International. There was one guy, Mr. Cecil, who lived in the Cecil Hotel and was another polyglot, but he used to come in with haikus. He would do these haikus in Japanese and English, and he would recite them to the librarian at the desk. And apparently he hung out in Literature, too, because in Joel's book, you know, he was profiled with a with a picture and everything. So we got a lot of the regular patrons that circulated around various departments. I think some of our strange and unusual regulars were also regulars in History and Literature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2647.24,2728.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e They spread the love. In the old building, where was the International Languages Department located?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2728.54,2738.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so let's say you're facing the building on Fifth Street. So as you come in the Fifth Street entrance, it's to the left, kind of. There's the docent office. There's a break room there now. Yeah, a meeting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2738.98,2756.47"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Meeting Room B.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2756.47,2758.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was, it was there in that area. And then they reconfigured that whole area in [19]93 when the the new Central opened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2758.36,2769.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Like put walls up to make kind of smaller areas. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2769.28,2771.603"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e it used to be in that quadrant of the building, it was International Languages. And then there was Access Services, I think they called it GLS, their work room was next to ours. And I think Fiction--Literature and Fiction were separate and Fiction, I'm not sure if it was on the first floor, There was another room, oh the Popular library- might have been early on, next to ours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2771.603,2808.51"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I think Fiction and Literature, they were separate departments, but I think they were both on the second floor, if I'm not mistaken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2808.51,2817.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Fiction was on the second floor. I forget the room next to the reading room in International Languages or Foreign Languages was used after the fire as kind of like a a break room. They called it the Embers Lounge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2817.12,2836.95"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, is that where the Embers Lounge was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2836.95,2839.59"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it was Glen Creason that named it that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2839.59,2841.51"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e I gotta think it was. I really do. But they still have the sign for it in a Special Collections. Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2841.51,2848.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2848.38,2848.71"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah. Embers Lounge. So yeah, so that brings us to to the fire. So you were employed here at Central Library. So the fire, the first fire was April 29th, 1986. So were you working that day?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2848.71,2863.5"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I was actually on the desk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2863.5,2865.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2865.18,2866.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I remember it being kind of like, 11'ish or something that we had to evacuate the building. There had been a lot of fire drills, so we were kind of used to just marching out to the parking lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2866.2,2883.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is on the now the Maguire Gardens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2883.18,2887.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was it had been paved over as a parking lot, which I think it had been a garden originally. And then it was a parking lot for many years because library staff had to park someplace. And so that day we just thought it was a drill at first, until we saw the flames coming out, which was, you know, pretty shocking--out of the Science department on the second floor, I think. So yeah, that day, we were pretty much--the staff was kind of waiting out in the parking lot as the fire engine showed up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2887.02,2934.63"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember how long you--we've talked to some staff members who went home finally at some point. But do you remember if you stuck around for the better part of the day?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2934.63,2948.37"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think I had taken the bus to work that day, so I was kind of hanging out mostly with people from my department. We were initially in the parking lot, then the fire department told us to move across Flower Street to what was then called Arco. And then at some point, we were told, you know, to just go home I believe. And then they would let us know what was next. But I think I got a ride home from Selma Benjamin that day because she lived out towards where I was living. So I think most of the staff went home. And then people were called back to do a lot of the dirty work of boxing up the books which were sent to be--eventually they decided, you know, we need to freeze dry these books. It was all a scramble for, you know...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=2948.37,3021.09"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you recall, were you called back the next day after the fire? Do you remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3021.09,3025.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, here's an interesting thing. Me personally, I had scheduled a vacation for April 30th. And I was going to visit a friend in Washington, D.C., so I went the next day. They didn't tell me to cancel my vacation. And the next day, I found myself taking a tour of the Library of Congress. And somebody in the in the group asked a question about fires. They weren't aware of what had gone on in L.A. This is literally the next day. And the guy giving the tour says something, \"Well, fires aren't usually a problem in libraries\" or I don't know. It's just like, totally clueless. But I was extremely fortunate in not being there because both Carrie and Glen, as I recall, had terrible health problems from the fire, from the the spores of mushrooms that were literally growing in the stacks. And, you know, whatever was in the air from after the fire was-- I mean, this is before a lot of the health and safety things were implemented. So we weren't like immediately issued masks or--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3025.92,3109.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, because I've heard stories of people going into the building that night, which would never happen now. It would absolutely never happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3109.86,3119.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I'm not sure. I think, yeah, some people might have been called back that night, but I think generally people, I mean the largest group of people came the next day and then, you know, they might have had extended hours. But when I came back like a week later from my trip to Washington DC. We were basically boxing up books to be sent into storage. If they were wet books, they were sent to be freeze dried, but if they were dry books, they were boxed up and sent to some warehouse. Administration was scrambling to, you know, what do we do? You know, Betty Gay was consulting with experts in conservation. 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Fortunately, the reading room itself wasn't on fire or didn't sustain, water damage to the books largely. I think there was like a flood of water, like in our workroom. But maybe just the books on the bottom shelves or something might have had some damage in the reading room. So we were we were not as bad off as, say, Science or some other departments that had books that were incinerated or totally damaged by the water.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3199.68,3250.89"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you recall how long you worked inside Central after the fire? 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I don't know how long. It was quite some time, but at some point my supervisor, who was Rolando Pasquinelli--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3322.53,3346.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3346.56,3346.845"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e --called me and said, we need you to come to Rio Vista, which was a processing center. Which is, guess it's East LA, well, it's on the other side of the river. It's near Rio Vista Street was kind of like south of Boyle Heights area, but they needed me to help at Rio Vista. We were continuing to do inventory and so the departments had moved their operation largely to Rio Vista at some point, although it was a mixed bag, some people continued to be at branches. I was at Rio Vista, and then there was other people that were sent to other agencies, like there was a Anderson Street, which was some sort of--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3346.845,3407.07"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Our warehouse. Warehouse,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3407.07,3408.39"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e processing center. Yeah. There were a lot of these satellite things. There's something called the depository, which is a very dusty collection of books somewhere in the downtown area. I think it's long gone as far as--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3408.39,3425.91"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e I think Dan Dupill talked a little bit about that when we interviewed him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3425.91,3428.85"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't like the depository because it was really dusty. Yeah. 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Well, I think a lot of people were just shocked by the the fire, the loss of books and when I saw the fire, I knew then that things were going to be a lot different for the next several years because--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3448.52,3463.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So you grasped how bad it was at the time it was going on? 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I think they respect the fact that I had a vacation and, yeah, you know, airplane tickets and all that. So but I remember coming back to the building a week later and they were wearing hard hats and boxing up books. And I walked in and they said, new meat. [Laughs]So, yeah, for a while, we were just sort of boxing up books and kind of like tidying up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3528.26,3602.81"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And so I know you had mentioned, the Embers Lounge, that was kind of this tongue in cheek thing and there were staff t-shirts that were created. So there were things that were done to kind of keep up staff morale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3602.81,3615.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I almost wore one in. It's this famous t shirt that says, Shelvers from Hell. Yeah. I think it's probably the most sought after LAPL t-shirt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3615.62,3627.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e It is. We had it on display because we have the t-shirts in our Special Collections department. And so during our 150th anniversary exhibit, we had a bunch of t-shirts on display, and Shelvers from Hell was by far the one that everybody was commenting on. 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And so I think one of the other things that was done for kind of staff morale was there was a talent show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3648.92,3658.49"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I'm not sure who put it together but there was a talent show in the Embers Lounge and I don't know how I came up. I had a paperback copy of A Streetcar Named Desire at home, and there was an MC by the name of Antar Mahmoud, and he was an actor. He had some roles-- he was in \"Car Wash\" and he was in a film called \"Disco Godfather.\" Oh yeah, you're you're a movie person. So yeah, he's in IMDb and some other sort of blaxploitation movies from the 70s. And I just somehow I got the idea, why don't we do a scene from A Streetcar Named Desire? And, uh, it was just kind of being silly, and it was kind of like, not within my nature. I'm, you know, a shy, retiring librarian type. But I decided to do the scene and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3658.49,3733.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Who did you play?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3733.76,3737.15"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Blanche DuBois. I mean, I just took on a falsetto voice or something. And Antar was Stanley Kowalski, and you know, just a scene, and we. I think we changed some lines in the script to make it more relevant to the library. Like at one point, Stanley or Blanche asked for a cigarette and I had Antar say, \"Don't you know this is a library? You can't smoke here.\" You know, so somewhere there's --I think Glen [Creason] has a VHS of it, and I think I tried to copy that onto a DVD but it wasn't a very good quality, you know. Yeah, but they had various musical acts, I think Romain Ahlström, who was the collection development manager at the time, she did some kind of monologue and there was Hawaiian music from a couple staff members, one of whom had lived in Hawaii. Yeah, it was it was fun and it built morale, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3737.15,3809.21"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And Bob had mentioned--Bob Anderson, who had mentioned this in one of the oral histories, he did said you were wearing a mask during the scene. Do you remember? 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So, you know, a scene from A Streetcar Named Desire, wearing hard hats, you know, with certain in-jokes about the library being inserted into the scenes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3818.69,3846.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e I somebody has to provide me with a video of that because Streetcar [Named Desire] is just one of my--it's my favorite play. So I really I really need to see you as Blanche. That's fantastic. So in the aftermath of the fire, almost immediately there was launched this massive campaign, Save the Books, to raise money to replace the volumes. And there was a lot of different fundraising. There were walk-a-thons and there was a shop and there was a Gene Scott telethon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3846.02,3871.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I went to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3871.64,3872.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you go to that? Like I wanted to ask, which of these fundraisers did you play an active role in or even, you know, slightly involved in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3872.3,3881.09"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Gene Scott was like a fixture on, on Los Angeles television in the UHF channels, you know, which I guess isn't a thing anymore. But he used to do his preaching on TV, and then he did a telethon, so I attended that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3881.09,3901.91"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Were you just in the audience or were you on the phone bank?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3901.91,3907.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I think I was on the phone bank, for one session or one day. 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And also, the library in in conjunction with Arco, because Arco was kind of like a partner and kind of getting the library up on its feet. They were doing it as part of their charitable outreach or, you know. showing that they were good community partners by helping the library. So they opened up a Save the Books store in the Arco Plaza, which still exists, although at the time I think it was multi-level. They had a lot more stores than they do now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3917.15,3953.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3953.48,3953.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e In 2024, there's only one level and a lot of the places that are for lease post-pandemic. But at the time, it was a pretty popular place to eat lunch. You know, there'd be all these restaurants and other stores, but the library opened to Save the Books store and they sold t shirts, sweatshirts, tote bags, things like that. And they had me working the store for a few months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3953.9,3983.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3983.54,3986.93"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Because, yeah, I mean, we all needed to do something. So they assigned me to work the Save the Books store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3986.93,3998.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So just like, as a cashier. Or do you remember, as a stock person?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=3998.36,4004.15"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they had the store, but they also had these satellite events. In other words, they would have some kind of show like in Pasadena, where they had booths for various things, and so there'd be a Save the Books booth, at various public events where they would sell T-shirts and stuff. So I was kind of like, along with another librarian, I forget her name, who was there briefly, but we were kind of like arranging these satellite events and also kind of making sure that the store had inventory, you know, because we we had these rooms in the Arco Towers where we had a lot of the inventory and we had to bring them down to the, to the Arco-- I don't know what they call it, a mini mall or something where they had the library store. And so I remember going out and buying a sport jacket and a tie because I had to look somewhat official, you know. And so I worked with Save the Books for a while, and then at some point they were closing down Central Library, I think to staff, because we had done the inventories and a lot of people went to branches. So then I found myself in the Western Region subbing and then at Rio Vista and then eventually coming back to--well, we were at Spring Street from [19]89 to '93, in what was called the temporary building, although we were there for four years. Yeah, seemed somewhat permanent, but it was the old Title Insurance building at 433 South Spring, which I think they do a lot of filming there because it's an old Art Deco type of space. And so, yeah, there was a lot happening during those years. We were being moved around a lot. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4004.15,4145.35"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And so you went from Rio Vista to Spring Street?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4145.35,4150.689"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Rio Vista to --well there's another building next to the Spring Street temporary library, which was called the processing center, where we continue to go through these boxes of books and make notations on catalog cards, whether you know, we had the book, I forget exactly. You were checking off each card. It was very rote work, but at least we were appreciative of the fact that we were still getting our salaries and working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4150.689,4187.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4187.8,4188.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e So even though it was pretty dull work just doing inventory, we still had jobs. And then at some point they opened up--I think they call it the Book Stop. It was like a small, kind of temporary branch type sized library that lent materials-- books and VHS tapes while they were getting the the rest of the temporary building next door ready for us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4188.22,4227.01"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And then for Spring Street, did you have to physically set up your department for Spring Street? Were you guys responsible for putting the books on the shelf at that point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4227.01,4239.19"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. When we moved into Spring Street, we had to shelve everything. But when we moved back into this building-- Fifth Street--there was a company that brought the books over and we still needed to do shelf reading and make sure that everything was right, but we didn't have to do everything, there was company. But on Spring Street there was a lot of shelving.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4239.19,4268.71"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Hence the Shelvers from Hell t-shirt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4268.71,4270.81"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Shelving and shifting. And, you know, it was a multi-level building. It was something like seven floors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4270.81,4284.25"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I think it was seven. International","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4284.25,4286.294"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Languages shared the sixth floor, I believe, with Literature. But we also had closed stacks on the seventh floor for our overflow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4286.294,4300.57"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So you had a company packing up the books from Spring Street. So what would have been the role of the librarians kind of leading up to coming over to the new building?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4300.57,4316.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that transition, because there was a company, it seemed like we were just working in Spring Street until Fifth Street was ready. We weren't doing as much packing up of books. There was a big weeding type thing that we were doing, and I don't know if that was because we were moving, but we were asked to downsize some of our collections, which wasn't a very popular decision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4316.14,4356.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4356.52,4356.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e From administration, certain languages were considered, you know, not as important. And so we were asked to do a lot of weeding, maybe so we could fit into the new building because there was limited closed stack space. So they had to, you know, plan the space very carefully. So they wanted us to weed certain collections. And I remember shipping, like thousands of duplicate copies of Yiddish books to the National Yiddish Book Center in Amherst, Massachusetts. Library rate. And feeling that at least the books were being saved.  Um, and I remember Helene Mochedlover writing an article criticizing this weeding effort as ethnic cleansing in The Communicator. That","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4356.94,4417.93"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e sounds so, Helene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4417.93,4420.57"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah. And one thing I wanted to mention about working in International or Foreign Languages. Sylva we kind of, like, hold court. She was good friends with all the other principal librarians in the building, and they would come visit her in her office. So since my desk was, like, right across from Sylva's, you know, like Helene was always stopping by. Billie Connor[-Dominguez] from Science, Romain Ahlstrom, who was Collection Development and Rare Books. So I got to know the Central staff pretty well because everybody visited Sylva. She was always kind of like holding court. She liked to, you know, talk and schmooze with everybody. So it was a good vantage point to like being introduced to Central, just working across from Sylva's office because everybody would show up. And that was kind of a good introduction to the Central staff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4420.57,4487.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, and all of those people that you mentioned were just so ingrained in Central and so knowledgeable about the collections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4487.62,4495.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I was trying to think-- I mentioned Sylva, Selma, Carrie--Well, we had another half time librarian, Elisa Gonzalez, who was from Cuba, who had left Cuba when as a young girl, when Castro came to power. And she she was also doing Spanish and mostly she was assigned YA Spanish because we also had YA books and she did Portuguese as well. So yeah, I got to know Central pretty quick. Because I think largely because of Sylva had everyone around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4495.48,4541.5"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. So did you work the day of the reopening on October 3rd, 1993?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4541.5,4546.57"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4546.57,4547.83"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And so, were you just stationed in your department, or were you given a different role for the crowds that came in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4547.83,4553.5"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, wait a second. I don't think I was assigned to work. I think it was a Sunday. Perhaps it was October, but everybody was coming down. It was going to be like a big party. They were putting up billboards, \"Party October 3rd, 1993.\" So I came down with my wife and my we had had a baby in [19]92, so we had a one year old. And I remember Sylva being in the department and making a big deal of our baby, but I don't think I worked on October 3rd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4553.5,4593.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, but you were here. But you were here. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4593.04,4594.99"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e was here, and then probably the following, probably the next day I was working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4594.99,4601.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And then. So once we reopen in 1993, that's when we officially make the shift from a card catalog to an online catalog. So can you think of just how that transformed your work? Like, what are some of the biggest differences between straddling, like, this analog versus a digital catalog?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4601.8,4622.53"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when it was still an analog catalog, we had to physically go up to the rotunda area where they had the catalog for the entire building. If we wanted to check anything that wasn't in our particular department. So we had our own catalog in International, and I think every department had their own.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4622.53,4646.29"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e For their own department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4646.29,4647.43"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e For their own departments. So there was a lot of walking around opening up drawers. It was very physical, you know, and time consuming, especially since I had to do a lot of bibliographic checking. We got all these catalogs from Spanish book dealers, and Sylva had me meticulously check through these catalogs, which required checking to see if we had the book already, you know--plus or zero--all these notations. So it was a lot of opening up drawers, finding the card, just the old school librarianship. Yeah. Now some of that changed actually on Spring Street we had a CD-ROM catalog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4647.43,4697.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4697.52,4700.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e It wasn't a full fledged online catalog, but we were able to at some point search using a computer, which I mean, it's just the obvious changes of being able to search with a keyword and getting the results really quickly, rather than marching over to a physical catalog. Yeah, it was a big difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4700.76,4724.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Liberating a little bit in some ways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4724.52,4727.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Time saving. Yeah. Because you could do a lot of work at the reference desk once you had the CD-ROM catalog at Spring Street. Yeah. A lot of your bibliographic checking, you know, without going to the physical catalog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4727.34,4743.39"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And so I want to jump forward a little bit because you know, the library opens and we're chugging along. And then in 2009 is when the financial downturn really starts impacting our system. And so I remember like we froze sub time, we couldn't have subs, and we had mass retirement at that time. So we lost a lot of institutional memory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4743.39,4767.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, is that when they offered the early retirement?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4767.24,4768.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e That's when they offered the ERIP, the early retirement. Were Are you eligible for the early retirement at that time? I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4768.92,4773.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e did get a letter saying that I was eligible, but I didn't. I didn't feel like I was ready, I was only like 58 or something. 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Do you recall like how your department and your day to day work might have been impacted by all of that because that was one of the worst times of my career, certainly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4787.94,4812.63"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, aside from the hours changing, I think we were on the desk a lot more because, like, as you said, there weren't as many sub hours available. So things were generally pretty tight until perhaps when Measure L went into effect. When Martin Gomes, the City Librarian at the time, passed this Measure L on the ballot, which allowed us to to lock into certain funding percentage, which really helped with our hours. So that's when everything changed for the better. But yeah, it was pretty lean time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4812.63,4853.73"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Did you have anybody retire in your department? I don't remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4853.73,4859.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I think our half-time librarian, Elisa Gonzalez, retired somewhere during that period. And then we had some clerical staff. 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One difference between our department and most of the other departments at the time, was generally like History, Social Sciences. Business would have two librarians on the desk, but Children's and International had just one librarian. So we were kind of down to a minimum to begin with. We couldn't really lose anybody, without it really impacting us. So, you know, losing just a half time librarian to retirement, you know, made an impact because we think it was just the, uh, I'm not sure when. Okay. Well, Sylva retired around 1998. So by 2009, we didn't have a principal librarian exclusively in the department. Helene was over both International and Literature. 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So did you start subbing immediately or did you give yourself some time off before you started doing that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4954.95,4963.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I wasn't too clear about what the process was for becoming a sub, because I had heard that there was a waiting period of like a year or something. And then I called personnel and they gave me one story and then I. 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And he said, okay, Ken, you know, you're in, just call personnel. So it turned out I was able to sub like three months after I retired, which I didn't expect. I thought I would have to wait a year, but pretty soon after I retired in July, I think around October I was able to sub.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=4993.98,5016.33"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e And where have you been subbing? Kind of all around the system or more like in the Western area?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5016.33,5022.63"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think I was subbing initially in mostly Western area, but then--also Central Library I was subbing in. I was subbing in just about every department at Central Library. I hadn't subbed at TeenScape until this year. But every public department at Central plus mostly Western region, Exposition park was on the Expo line so I could get to that easily from where I lived, so I subbed. In that region also, which is Central Southern. 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Well I was subbing, I remember at Central in Literature and then they there was the announcement came through. You know, we're not open to the public tomorrow. This is like February or March of 2020.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5157.57,5174.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e It was March. 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I mean, I don't have, like, a cutoff date. I don't know if I want to go past 80 years old or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5238.87,5246.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e But it seems like subbing after working a subject department. Subbing has to be such an easy thing to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5246.4,5254.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it just depends on the agency, because at some branches, you're handing out computer passes all day because a lot of the patrons may be homeless and they don't have library cards. So a lot of it is just you're helping people get online. And then, you know, just finding books and doing the usual branch work. Yeah. It's certainly different being in Central, but I kind of feel you get the real big picture of LAPL, you know, you work branches and Central. So I felt like I was kind of lucky getting the opportunity to do both. You know, like, tomorrow I'm working at West L.A., and then next week I'm working at TeenScape. Yeah, it's kind of like a big--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5254.8,5307.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So you're really getting the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5307.68,5309.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Experiences. Which is kind of nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5309.0,5314.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So that is all the formal questions that I have. Is there anything that we didn't talk about or any final thoughts you would like to deliver to our listeners?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5314.04,5327.57"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e No. I mean, I just feel that I was lucky to get a job at Central Library, because not everybody that has an undergraduate background in a certain subject gets to use it, you know? And so, you know, Literature major. Well, you know, what can you do with that? You can you can teach or something. But I was lucky to find department at Central where I was able to use, you know what I actually studied in college. So, you know, that seemed to be a good thing. And I was still interested in the subject of languages. We'd have people coming in from all these countries. So it was always an interesting place to work. I feel lucky to have worked with LAPL. I mean, there was good and bad times that we talked about and challenging situations with, with patrons at times and security. But, you know, it's just part of being in public libraries, I think. And so, I mean, all in all, it's been it's been good. And I, you know, yeah, appreciate having a chance to talk about it and kind of remember some of this stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5327.57,5406.17"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, absolutely. We appreciate you sharing your experience. But yeah I think we are the lucky ones. Those of us who get to work here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5406.17,5417.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Some of the branch people mentioned, you know, I wanted to transfer to Central, but, you know, they didn't have anything for me. So I guess I kind of lucked out, I mean, unfortunately, somebody had to pass away from International Languages for there to be an opening. But the timing worked for me. Yeah. I don't know if I just had remained at a branch or if I would have been satisfied, you know. Yeah. I think coming to Central was it was like a whole new world in Central was just, you know, a wonderful-- I mean, it still is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5417.12,5454.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e It still is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5454.38,5455.1"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Central was--being in the building was a lot different than today because, there was all these nooks and crannies and things that had been left over from the [19]20s, just you'd go down to these closed stacks and there'd be these rickety elevators, you know. I remember seeing bats, or a bat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5455.1,5484.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5484.66,5485.41"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. In the cloased stacks. And they filmed Ghostbusters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5485.41,5489.85"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5489.85,5490.45"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e A few scenes. And I watched them in the closed stacks. I think it was Bill Murray and a few other people. So it was a perfect atmosphere for Ghostbusters. So there was all this these things going on downtown that, you know, it was good to be a part of. And Central Library certainly was kind of a magnet for a lot of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5490.45,5520.45"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e So that's why it's just great to hear from somebody who bridged, you know, both of these eras. Because I never had the chance to come here before the renovation. So we appreciate your time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5520.45,5532.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean it was a difficult building to be in initially, we didn't have air conditioning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5532.38,5538.95"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eChristina Rice:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329#t=5538.95,5539.37"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/138281/file/256329/transcript/72428/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKen Feder:\u003c/strong\u003e And L.A. gets pretty hot in the summer. So one of the things that I was assigned to keep track of the temperature in the International Languages department because, you know, it got to be like the 90s indoors. So it was a real relief when we opened up in the new building. 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