{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/7w6736ng3r/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["LAPL Institutional Collection - Michael Kirley"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/200/original/lapl_logo.png?1628076950","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Julie Huffman","Michael Kirley"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2023-10-22"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["Michael Kirley, former Genealogy Specialist in the History \u0026amp; Genealogy Department is interviewed by his successor, Julie Huffman. 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The date is October 21st, 2023, and we're recording from the Octavia Lab in Central Library. Hi Michael, as you know this is for the LAPL Oral History Project, so I'm going to get right into it and start asking you questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1.46,28.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=28.54,29.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What year did you start with LAPL?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=29.8,32.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1970.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=32.08,34.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when did you retire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=34.86,37.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"2009.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=37.08,39.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, so what is that? 39","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=39.0,40.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=40.64,41.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"39 years. What was your path to librarianship and what brought you to work at LAPL specifically?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=41.52,50.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I had been interested in libraries by working as a Page, for instance, during my high school days. And then in college, I was a student fellow at the Newberry Library in Chicago, which is a famous research library, but has an excellent genealogy collection. We were studying at that particular time the French Revolution, and when we weren't doing that and I had some spare time, I could use that collection for genealogy, which gave me an interest in it. And then when I graduated from college, I was lucky enough to get a fellowship, which paid all of my expenses for my library school education and at Catholic University of America in Washington, DC, which is where you have the Library of Congress, the D.A.R. Library and other major, National Archives, other major genealogical sources, So I could influence it then, take an interest in it then. And then when I was graduating from library school, there was an ad in American Libraries or library journal that they needed a genealogy librarian at the Los Angeles Public Library, which obviously the timing was working out perfectly about all of these things. So I applied, and since it's a civil service job, you had to pass a civil service test. And it happened that at that time, the Principal Librarian, the head of the History and Genealogy department was Mary Pratt. And she was going to be going on vacation to Block Island in Rhode Island. She was going to be going to New York City on the way of the tour. And so she arranged for me to meet her there in New York. And weirdly enough, it was in her hotel room at the New York Hilton. And I had the interview there. And that constituted the test that you had to do for the civil service test at that time. And eventually, I got word that I'd been hired.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=50.42,208.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wow. Did they pay for your moving expenses to come out to LA? Or did you have to flip them? No,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=208.26,213.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had to do that myself. My fellowship at the Catholic University paid for my living expenses there and paid for a round-trip ticket, so it wasn't a big deal to come here. Great,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=213.18,228.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"great. And so you started your career here as a genealogy librarian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=228.34,232.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=232.48,233.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what were the other positions you had throughout your time here? I know you've always been in the Genealogy Department, correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=233.4,241.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was initially in the Genealogy Department and then after some years around 78 or 79, I switched my job from being full-time Genealogy to half-time History and half-time Genealogy. And at that point, in addition to doing what everyone was doing in Genealogy, I took on the task of indexing the Los Angeles Times. Of course, this is long before we ever dreamed of digitizing newspapers and things. And actually, there was eventually, actually, that didn't start until 72, the index of the LA Times. But you were doing it for articles on historic interest in Los Angeles and local history interest. And so when I was doing that, I would be working up in the History workroom, and I would work in the History Reference Desk, as well as doing my other duties in Genealogy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=241.12,295.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so those indexes that you created, they're in the California Index right now, currently? Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=295.68,302.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that had been going on for a long time before me. So I was just doing that for the years that I was doing that. And people like Kelly, who's doing it today, it's still continued since.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=302.08,312.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did they make you do halftime History? No,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=312.9,315.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I chose it. OK,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=315.86,316.88"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you just wanted something new?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=316.88,318.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The job had been that way for several years, because some people in Administration didn't like the idea that one would be having two different supervisors, rather than just reporting to one supervisor. So at that time, when I did it with Frank Louck was the Senior Librarian in History and Lucile Lipman was the Senior Librarian in Genealogy And Mary Pratt was the Principal Librarian over both of them. And they all said there wasn't going to be any difficulty to do it. And other people had done the job prior to that. So it was just something that was continuing, not something different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=318.48,358.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Genealogy was its own department at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=358.18,362.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was in a separate reading room, separate from the History Department. Now obviously the two collections are intertwined. But at the time that I came, the reading room was in the East Wing, which doesn't exist now. It's been demolished. And on the first floor of the East Wing, there was both the genealogy room and the children's room. And in those days, it wasn't called children's literature. It was called children's room. And in the book that's just been published on the 150th anniversary of LAPL, there is a picture of the genealogy room. And that is not the genealogy room that I worked in. That was a different genealogy room. So that was at an earlier time. But at the time that that photo was taken, it was in what is now one of the two galleries on the first floor as you're coming into the Bradley Wing. And it would have been the one that's on the north side of that. And at that time, what was the genealogy room when I came had been the school room and teachers room. I had books for teachers. This was a separate one which disappeared after a while. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=362.02,450.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so eventually you were the only genealogy librarian left standing. What happened? Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=450.96,458.56"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was the only genealogy librarian when I came. There was a senior librarian, one librarian, me, and a halftime librarian who was Faye Williams and she was halftime Genealogy and halftime History.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=458.56,473.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, okay, that's good. Let's see here. So You were staffed at LAPL prior to the implementation of our online catalog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=473.26,484.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=484.4,485.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what are some of the biggest differences between that time and today, and how have the duties of librarians changed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=485.66,494.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, can I start out by really giving you a detailed picture of what it was like when I came in 1970?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=494.02,501.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, please. Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=501.38,502.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is so unlike what it is today, and then we can sort of work around this. And if I don't get to it, remind me of what I'm missing or something. But basically, at the time that I came, as I just said, there was a senior librarian, Lucile Lipman. I was the genealogy librarian full time. And Faye Williams was half time. And she was a retired school librarian from Downey. And she used to work here in her early days, only in the summers. And then after she retired, she took the full-time job of history and genealogy, both halftime each. And so because my position was rather unique at the time, my predecessor, whose name was Lionel Van Kersen, was retiring at the time that I started. And they kept him on for a week after I started so that he could train me and get me sorted out with the things that needed to be done. And then he retired. So at the time that I came, the library was open from 10 to 9, Monday through Saturday. And the genealogy room and children's were open from 10 to 9 on Monday and Tuesday, and Thursday and Friday, but closed at 6 on Wednesday and closed at 6 on Saturday. So there were the shorter hours for those two. Now the reading room was, a good space for the collection as it was at that time. It fit pretty well. And then behind the scenes, there were two levels of closed stacks. And on the second level of the closed stacks was a little area carved aside in the middle of this backseat area, which was the office. And so the three librarians, the senior and two librarians, each had their own desk. And at that time, there were two full-time messenger clerks, Bob Mann and Ian Siegel. And nowadays, you don't have, I think, any full-time messenger clerks. And generally, they're half-time and not civil service. But in those days, they were. Now, there may have been one or two part-time messenger clerks at that point, but there were two full-time messenger clerks, which covered most of the time. There was no other staff, no library clerk assistants, no clerk typist, no library assistant, nothing like that. And about once a week maybe, a clerk typist from the History Department would come down to do some typing for the department. Now over the years, the staffing increased and an additional full-time librarian was added. And around the later 70s, a full-time clerk typist was added, and eventually there was a library clerical assistant. So over the years, the size of the staff increased. And it was very different then, because of course, there were no computers. And so you had your own card catalog in the reading room of the History Department, which were only the books that were that department. So when people would come in thinking that some book would be in genealogy, you could look it up to see if it was in that catalog. But if it wasn't there, and for some reason or another, LAPL was classing it in some other department, you could only find that out by going up to the main card catalog in the rotunda on the second floor of the main building. It was sort of an awkward thing at times to determine what was in and what was not in the collection. And since there were no computers, obviously, the scope of things was much more limited, but was very busy in those days because people were really interested in genealogy and were coming in to do it. And for Mormons, for them, Monday evenings are family night. And so the temple library at the Mormon Temple in West LA would be closed on Monday evenings. But as a family outing, they would want to go to the library, so Monday evenings were particularly busy, in which the whole family was coming in, because It was acceptable to be going to a library and doing things with your family, but their own library was closed, and so they had to go someplace else. Now, these hours of 10 to 9 went on for a number of years, But when you were working until 9 p.m., that meant that you got what was called night rate for the day, which was something like two and a half percent more for the entire day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=502.74,836.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when it came time to try and cut the budget to somehow make things more lean, to speak of, they eventually changed the hours from 9 p.m. To 8 p.m. Because then, that doesn't qualify for night rate, and you only got paid the day rate for doing that kind of thing. So that was one of the ways that they could cut back. And over the years that I was here, continuing to now, there have been different times of plenty and lean. And eventually, we came to a lean time in which the library's budget was going to be cut and something had to go. And so there was a decision made, which we were told about privately, but hadn't been publicly announced, that they would close the Genealogy Department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=836.94,900.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh my goodness. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=900.48,901.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just lock the door and whatever to go away. So what happened is that on a Saturday during the time in which the budget was under consideration, the assistant City Librarian, who at that time was Edith Bishop, paid a visit. And she came on a Saturday, which was highly unusual for the administration to be seen in the building on a Saturday. And it happened that it was an overwhelmingly busy Saturday, quite by accident, in which all of the seats in the genealogy room were filled. And there was no room left. And so a number of people were seated across the hall at the little children's tables, which was the only seating they could find because it was so busy. Well, that, the accidental fact that the public paid us a visit that day saved us. And so the Administration reconsidered and decided that since they hadn't told the Board in advance about this, that they really shouldn't try to do it. And so they changed their mind and tried to find cuts other ways. And I think at that time, what was done was to cut at least one librarian position from the Fiction Department, which was a separate reading room from literature in those days. And that person, I believe, had seniority that she could go and be transferred someplace else. The person wasn't actually laid off, but the position was cut or something. And so that's how they managed to get the money to do that type of thing. So obviously, it seemed at times that Genealogy could be at peril. And I rather think, I'm not positive, but my memory is that this may have been about 1975. And then in like 1976, Alex Haley published his book Roots. And the following year, there was the TV miniseries, which was a sensation. And after that, genealogy became a sensation. And there was never any attempt - Roots saved us and there was never ever another attempt to try and close it. Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=901.62,1043.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's wonderful because I know again in 2009 the library froze sub time and experienced a mass retirement and I had never heard anything about really how Central responded. I know they were make cutting adult librarian positions in the branches. What happened here at LAPL during that time in your department?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1043.22,1064.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In 2009 I don't think anything happened but that was the time that they started, the reason I retired at that point, was that they wanted to cut the city payroll, and so for different types of city employees, you were offered a buyout in order to retire early. Well, of course, you can retire after 30 years, and I had been here for 39 years. And so I was obviously not leaving early, but they offered me this special deal, which I decided to take. And of course a number of other people did it in other departments and this and that. And that gave them the types of cuts that they needed. And so that was why that when I retired at that time, you didn't come by until four years later I believe because the job had been frozen and they weren't hiring any new people in those days. And that's how they controlled the amount of money until they got to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1064.38,1121.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK. Was there a lot of telephone work back before computers? I'm just imagining the phone was just ringing off the hook. Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1121.18,1129.624"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yes. I wanted to bring up this subject of the telephone. When I came in 1970, Genealogy had one telephone line. And so this was the only telephone, the telephone in the reading room, the telephone in the work room, this one line. No more than that. Now eventually, we finally got a second line. So that meant you had both like a workroom line and a reading room line that you could do calls. And of course from a librarian's point of view, before when you had only this one line, if you needed for some reason to summon security or something and you were tied up on a reference call, there was no way to even get a phone to try and do the call to do that kind of thing, from a safety point of view. It was very dangerous. And not that there were all that many times that you needed to call security back in those days, but having only one line. Now eventually, of course, after we opened in this building and even when we were on Spring Street. Eventually people, almost every librarian and other people all had their own telephone, but that is not the way it was in 1970.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1129.624,1211.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did they have on-site security back then? Oh","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1211.74,1214.2"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yes, always. But now today they're very good at coming for immediately when you call them. But back in those days, it was not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1214.2,1226.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What staff members that you interacted with during your career here had a lot of impact on you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1226.04,1234.82"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was surely Mary Pratt, who is the beloved head of History and Genealogy. And she was someone who had worked in Genealogy in her early days here. Surely Lucile Lipman, surley Darell Brown, who worked in Genealogy. He had been in the Science Department before I came to History. And at one point, He had a sort of a half-time job between History and Genealogy. And then he left to go to the Department of Water and Power Library, which is actually at that point is part of the city budget and was considered to be part of the Science Department's budget or whatever, although it was a separate thing. And in those days, when this is of course pre-fire days, I went to visit him at his new job at the DWP. And he had a telephone on his desk and I said, \"Ooh, you have your own telephone?\" And he says, \"Doesn't everybody?\" Knowing fully well from having worked here, There was a lack of telephones at that point compared to what he had there. But he was, you know, indexed everything under the sun and did various kinds of census indexes and things like that. And the census is one of these things which is an interesting topic to discuss. Because when I came, the department microfilm consisted of two cabinets of about 10 drawers. And they had the entire 1850 census, because that was the first year that the census listed everybody. Now, there were a few other odds and ends of rolls for other states, because people had donated them to us. But it wasn't very extensive at that point. We had California for every year. The policy, which I thank goodness I had read this policy, was that the plan would be that when new states were admitted to the Union, the library would buy the census for whatever was the first year after they were admitted. Well, since the 1890 census had been mostly lost in a fire shortly after the census was taken where it didn't really exist. So therefore, in 1972, when the 1900 census was released, there were a lot of new states that needed to be added to the collection to keep up with the written policy. And at that point, Miss Pratt only wanted to buy California, but when I pointed out to her the written policy, she conceded that we should do it. Therefore, I talked her, talked us into buying all of the new states that have been admitted since the 1880 census had been taken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1234.82,1433.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And was a similar policy taken with phone directories and city directories?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1433.42,1438.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, in those days, we didn't have them. Those days, those who were in the Business and Economics department, we had nothing to do with it. Ah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1438.14,1444.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were you part of the effort to get them moved to Genealogy, or did Business want to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1444.44,1449.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, no, no. I didn't necessarily want to move them all here, but what I wanted to do was the library had a nice collection of city directories, mostly centered around Southern California, Los Angeles, greater Los Angeles or whatever, but few other cities as well. And they're obviously a very useful thing for genealogy. And so I agitated to add the, in those days, the city directories were being microfilmed, and so you could get a hold of them. And I agitated to get something called the City Directories of the United States, which were in the process of microfilming, both on film and fiche, all of these directories and add them to the collection. And of course, this is like a budget proposal for a number of years. But finally, this was approved and the money came forth. And an odd thing about it is that we, I think we had like $50,000 or something to buy what was available of city directories at this time. And so therefore, in April of 1986, which is the fire, we had just received all these packing crates of microfilm of the city directories and they had just arrived and they were still in their crates in the History work room above the California Room and so when the fire happened the thing I wanted to see most was whether they had survived. And so, do you want me to go into the fire more? Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1449.44,1562.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"please, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1562.32,1563.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK. Well, on the day of the fire, it happened to be that I was sick that day. And I actually had been out for a week or two. And I had a doctor's note that I could return to work the next day. And Art Reynolds, who was a librarian there in the genealogy at that time, phoned me at home to say that the library was on fire. And my initial thought was, oh, this is a sick joke. I can't believe it or whatever. Then he flies me a turn on the TV and saw what was going on. So then Dan Strehl, who I think was at that point the senior in Business and Economics [NOTE: Michael later clarified that Strehl was not in Business at the time, but possibly the Senior of General Reading Services.] called me at home and called a bunch of people at home, saying that they wanted us to come in to work that night to start doing whatever we were going to do or whatever. And so I was dying to see whether these microfilm had survived or not. And so since I was going to be returning to work the next day I came in that night. And the mistake that I made was not to dress properly because I got up to the second floor rotunda, and the water was about a half inch deep all across the floor. So if you were wearing galoshes or something like that, you could steady yourself walking across the floor. But I wasn't wearing the right shoes to be walking in a puddle all that way. But it worked out somehow that you could do it. And I got up there and saw that. And really, nothing took place that night because everything was such chaos that a bunch of us came, but I don't know that anybody really accomplished very much at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1563.28,1665.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What were they wanting you to do, just move books off the shelves into boxes or try to do- Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1665.04,1669.84"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"eventually you did, but that didn't take place right away. The first part of packing things out was to get things out from the closed stack areas where things had gotten wet or potentially wet or whatever. And so depending on where the fire was or whatever, so you started packing up. And so they had different brigades of people. You were assigned to work in different places, and it was like two people at a time, and other people were just making boxes. And they got boxes from a whole bunch of different places. And it was amazing how much they could come up with in a very short period of time. So sometimes I was making boxes, and sometimes I was packing boxes. But Betty Yan, who was the clerk typist at that time. She and I were on a team, and when we were working together packing things, we just went very fast that we could do it, because we worked together all the time anyway, and we could do it. And sometimes when she wasn't around, I would be working with somebody else. You know, you got a lot less work done than somebody you worked with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1669.84,1746.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where did they take the books? Was that Spring Street? No,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1746.66,1749.84"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no, freezers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1749.84,1750.64"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1750.64,1751.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everything had to be frozen so they wouldn't start developing mold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1751.92,1757.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then after they, I know the, this was closed for a while, Central Library was closed, and were you relocated to Spring Street? Is that right? Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1757.06,1766.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"eventually, but that was a long time afterwards. You see, we stayed in the burned out building the rest of that year. And there was a second fire. The main fire was in April, and then there was another fire in September. And that second fire was mainly confined to the Art and Music stacks. And the scary thing about that is that those stacks were directly above the Genealogy stacks. So there was a potential there of some danger. But luckily, there wasn't really any water damage to the genealogy books or whatever. For the rest of the library from the main stacks, everything had been packed out immediately after the fire. But our books in our closed stacks were left because they hadn't been touched by the first fire at all. And they did put some sheets of plastic down over the books in the reading room in certain places where there might be dripping. And it does happen that under one of these big sheets of plastic, when they took it off, three of the genealogy books got moldy. It sounds ridiculous to tell this when thousands and thousands of books were left, lost, and totally whatever. And that did happen as a result of the Second Fire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1766.04,1851.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So how long were you in Central Library, like as a burnt out building working?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1851.98,1856.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From the day of the fire until, I think, It was November of 1987.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1856.68,1865.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK. And then was that when you moved? Then where did you go? What was the process? Did you go to? Then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1865.28,1871.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we went to Rio Vista, some of us, which was a warehouse. But I should comment a little more on the conditions of working there after the fire because there was no heat. The heat actually worked, but they were afraid to turn it on for what might be coming out of the ducts after the fire. So therefore, we were in there in this unheated building for more than a year. And it gets very cold in Los Angeles in the wintertime. And luckily, in the old genealogy room, we had windows on both the east and west, and so you could open them and get a cross draft. And so when we would have like an 80 degree day in January, we would open the windows wide and put our fans over by the window to blow in the warm air. My","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1871.52,1936.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gosh. To","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1936.62,1937.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"help heat up the room. And at this point, there was like only one restroom or so on each floor that was still working. And the people on the third floor, the Administration, had departed almost immediately for the 35th floor of ARCO because Lod Cook, who was the chairman of the Atlantic Richfield Company, offered the space to the library. And so they went over there. And the Catalog Department was still left on the, what is now the fourth floor. It was called the third floor in those days. And the catalog department was still there until there was an earthquake in 87, I believe, that created sort of a crack or hump or something in the floor that they decided that was dangerous. They moved over to whatever the building is now called the Bloc, where the Macy's is at 7th and Flower. They moved into an upper floor of that building at that time. But after that fire, there were only two telephones left working at the Central Library. One was in the Rotunda on the second floor, and there was another one someplace else. So for scarcely having any telephones, there was virtually no telephones after this. And at this particular time, it took a long time to try and find a place for us to go after the fire, because the weight of the books for the library and the huge collection of the Central Library, most buildings couldn't stand the weight of so many books. So finding a place that could take us and had the space for our requirements and so forth was a very difficult thing. So Eventually it happened that one of the city council members at that time was publicly saying that maybe we should just close the library altogether until a renovated and enlarged library was ready. And so it was at this point that I had a telephone call, under these difficult telephone situations, only the one telephone in the building, that one of the people from the genealogy world called me. And whatever we're discussing, asked questions. And so you could tell people if somebody asked you. You couldn't say things, bring up a subject. If you weren't asked, you could respond truthfully if you were to ask a question. So ask what was happening, and so forth and so forth. So I explained the situation. And this person and one other person took it to heart. And the city council member soon was receiving so many telephone calls, so many exhortations, that the person changed their mind and recanted. And so therefore, a place was found for the library to go. We eventually went into what was called the Title Insurance and Trust Company on Spring Street, which was magnificent size-wise and could bear the weight of all of the collection and had the space requirements that we needed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=1937.36,2168.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so this whole time that the libraries burnt out or you're moving books in boxes and this and that, you were helping patrons?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2168.68,2178.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, no, no, no. Of course not. We closed on the day of the fire and didn't reopen for 3 years down to Spring Street. What you were doing was they realized at this point, remember there was no computerized catalog. They realized that they needed to create a new catalog. And so you were doing an inventory of what was left. And so the way it worked was that you took your card catalog for your own individual department. Obviously, Genealogy was separate. And you pulled the main entry card for each given title. And that you put in some sort of pile or something. And this would create the new catalog. So you took each item. Now, you might have multiple copies of it, or it may be something that's in multiple volumes or something. You just pulled one thing for whatever the thing was, and that got it into the catalog. So That was a very time-consuming thing to do. Because no matter which department it was, all of the departments still had the reading room collections. And in Genealogy, we have both the closed stacks and the reading room. And then you worked on other projects of collection management. And one of the things that we did was create new folders and things for our vertical files and do other kinds of processing and things of the collection that needed to be done. Some ordinary work still kept going on. OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2178.08,2270.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kind of shifting gears a little bit, how has the culture of Los Angeles Public Library changed over the years? Like just staff personalities or behavior? Have you noticed any changes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2270.22,2285.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just to give you some simple details, at the time that I came in 1970, all of the male librarians wore a coat and tie. And the female librarians would wear either a dress or a skirt and blouse or something like that. And everybody wore nice shoes and things like that. And of course, the library was not air conditioned all those years. And so the hotter that you got, surely you removed your coat, surely you removed your tie, and whatever. A woman probably wore a sleeveless outfit or something like that. And eventually, you became more casual about doing that kind of thing. And even the patrons themselves were more formal when they came in, in the early days, and it changed over the years. And, you know, different kinds of shoes were being worn, and pantsuits came in, and, you know, All of that changed with the times. And I think even the way of addressing people, for instance, when I started, we referred to each other as Mr. Kirley and Miss Lipman, Miss Pratt, and whatever. Now, even it was Miss Yan, Mr. Paternoster, who was our, Pat Paternoster was our library assistant [Note: his correct title was library clerical assistant] for a number of years. By that, usually the MCs, I think, were called by their first names. And I think some of the other departments were more casual about the way you referred to other people. But even until, I would say, the time of the fire, whoever were the principal librarians of the department were usually referred to as Mr. This or Mr. That or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2285.38,2397.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it's interesting because it's very casual now. Do you ever wish that you had had a different career path within LAPL?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2397.26,2407.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2407.54,2408.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You've sustained your love of genealogy this whole time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2408.68,2411.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2411.98,2413.5"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Are you doing your own genealogy research now that you're retired?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2413.5,2416.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On a limited basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2416.92,2420.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What was your favorite era here at the library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2420.08,2423.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a good question. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2423.96,2426.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When were you just the happiest working here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2426.26,2429.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a very good question. I'm sorry, I can't come up with a fast answer for that. That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2429.16,2434.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fine, that's fine. And just as an aside, did everybody take mass transportation back in the day, or was there a parking lot for people to drive in? How did they get here? Some","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2434.34,2446.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people did both. It was prior to my starting here that what is now the Maguire Gardens had been a garden on the west side of the building. And the only parking was where the now closed restaurant is on the ground level, outdoors. Yeah, Cafe Pinot, I think. That had been like a parking garage for a handful of cars where the city librarian, assistant city librarian, and divisional librarians, or whatever, could park. And that was about the extent of it. So prior to my time of coming here, there had been big demonstrations and things, and the garden was taken away and an open parking lot was here. So that was prior to my time. Now, at that point, there was a lot more parking, but you had to be on a list for three years before you could get a parking space. And since I was accustomed to living like in Washington before I came here, and you didn't need a car. I didn't have a car, and I didn't think I wanted to have a car. But somehow I changed my mind and decided that, yes, you really do want to have a car in Los Angeles. And so therefore I put my name on the list. Now if I had actually put my name on the list when I first came, I probably would have worked up to the top by the time that it came. But even when you didn't have a parking space, your different friends and associates would have different days off than you, and if they had a parking space, then you could use their parking space on the day that they were off. And on Saturdays, anybody could park there, and so it wasn't that you would have to have it. And of course, in those days, you didn't have the subway. You know the subway was under construction at the time of the fire and for some years thereafter. So anything prior to that you certainly didn't have the fixed rail systems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2446.28,2578.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. Do you have any remembrances of a notable patron interaction, or if you have any favorite patrons, or just anything that happened between you and the public that is remarkable?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2578.18,2592.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, one thing you wouldn't have nowadays, in the early years I was here, there were three women. One was Tessie James Miller from Prior, Oklahoma, and one was Leo Jane Shore from Lone Jack, Missouri, and one was Julia Veach Maxwell from Lincoln, Nebraska. And these were all like octogenarians. And they would come out for the winter and stay at the Biola Hotel, which was where the 550 South Hope building is now. And that site had been in the middle of the Church of the Open Door, and then closer to the library, right next to the library, was the Biola Hotel, and the other side of it was what was called Stewart Hall. And Biola stands for the Bible Institute of Los Angeles. And they eventually moved out and moved down to Orange County. And the name of the hotel was changed from the Biola Hotel to the Rainbow Hotel. But it was a very sort of tourist kind of accommodation with very reasonable prices. And here it was right next to the library. And so these people could spend the winters out here and spend their days researching. You didn't have any computers or things available to you online. And Tessie, for instance, her son lived out at Marina del Rey on a boat. And so she didn't want to stay there. And Julia had a daughter who wanted her to come out for the winter and lived in one of the suburbs or whatever. But she preferred to be down here, since it was right there. And so these people were patrons for a number of years and were here much of the time, because that was how they were spending the winter. And Julia, for instance, was terribly hard of hearing. And so she wore hearing aids and would turn off her hearing aid. And so one day there was a fire drill or whatever, and the fire alarm was going off. It was so loud. It was like driving you crazy. The whole room had evacuated. She's still sitting there reading her book and not noticing anything. I went up to her, and she looked up, and she was shocked to see that everybody was gone because she had turned off her hearing aids and couldn't even hear of what was going on at that time. Now, another interesting patron encounter was on a hot summer day, a patron who had been using one of our two microfilm readers came up to the desk and said to me, I haven't really painted my toenails in 20 years, and my nails are painted. At that time, the microfilm machines were such that the patron, there was like a main aisle through the genealogy room, And the patron was sitting at the back side from the main aisle at a big library table. And so their backs were to the wall and their feet were facing towards the main aisle that people were coming and going. And the table was very close to the reading room door, to the entrance to the room. And how somebody could get down in this smallish room and not be seen, because they were in a prominent part of the room to paint somebody's toenails. And so I thought, you know, well this person is, you know, crackers or whatever. But it turned out that later it was on the news that there had been somebody, some man, that was interested in this type of thing. It was going around to various different places doing it. And it was confirmed. That was what really happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2592.38,2851.16"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So someone else painted his toenails while he was-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2851.16,2854.6"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a woman. And she was wearing sandals in the summertime. And this man was found, not here at the LAPL, but someplace else eventually, and actually been doing that kind of thing. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2854.6,2865.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did you see her toenails?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2865.76,2867.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I so. I don't think, you know, this is when like one of these things where you get really elaborate fingernail pictures painted on your little individual nail or something, but they've been painted the same way. I don't know exactly how it was done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2867.68,2884.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Any other people that stand out to you or experiences?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2884.08,2889.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ooh, probably a lot of them. Because there were so many patrons that came in regularly over the years. But back in the days when we had the only single telephone, for instance, and this was in the days before cell phones, there was a man named Mr. Goodell who was a retired elevator operator at City Hall, so he was a retired city employee, and he would come spend the days researching his ancestry, which was mostly from New England. His wife called, and if they asked to speak to someone, we wouldn't allow them to do it, we would take a message with them. So she said, there's a major emergency, and I need to have him right away. And this is like at 11 o'clock on a beautiful, warm, sunny day. And her major emergency was that a light bulb had burned out in the weather for another hour.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2889.96,2950.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh my gosh. Are you happy that computers came around to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2950.76,2959.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2959.28,2959.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK, because I know some people are tied to maybe the nostalgia of old research methods.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2959.92,2965.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, no, no. Genealogy was so difficult at the time of Roots or whatever, and all these people are flocking to it. Very little of the census was indexed in those days. And then when they did start producing some indexes, the quality of them wasn't all that good. And there's some years that have a Soundex and some years don't. And then the Soundex didn't include everybody. Like in 1880, it was only for a family having children under the age of something or the other, rather than for everybody. So it wasn't a real, you know, complete index. And so it's just made everything a million times easier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=2965.92,3012.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think about the warriors who came before me and I stand upon their shoulders. What sorts of changes in the genealogy crowd have you observed? Like, has it changed? Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3012.52,3025.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3025.24,3027.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how would you say it has changed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3027.38,3030.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think gradually people have come to realize that they can get so many things online, and so they don't visit the library to the extent they used to for things that they could only find at the library before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3030.3,3043.36"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But what about the populations? I imagine in the beginning, it'd be a lot of people wanting D.A.R. Certification or to join the Mayflower Society. And then now, you know, as the time goes on, I have a lot of African American people interested in genealogy, especially with reparations possibly in the future. So I wondered if you'd seen a big shift in the types of populations who come in asking for genealogy help. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3043.36,3074.38"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would say that, definitely from the very early days. Because in the very early days, it was mostly very elderly people. And the crowd has gotten younger and broader. Of course, first of all, the complexion of Los Angeles has changed from 1970 and is much more mixed from what it was in those days. There's huge changes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3074.38,3098.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you think Los Angeles was more dangerous long ago or more dangerous now? Now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3098.0,3106.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anything else you'd like to share about your time here at Los Angeles Public Library that we should know about? Because most of what you said is new to me. I'd","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3106.08,3112.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like to go a little into building the collection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3112.96,3115.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3115.68,3118.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had a good collection when I came. And money, obviously, is often an issue. And so I don't really remember what exactly was the budget in those early days, but it was maybe like $1,000 or $2,000 a year, which doesn't seem like very much now. But it was a goodly sum for that time. And so Orra Monnette, who had been the president of the Board of Library Commissioners at the time that this new Goodhue building was built and had been a local genealogist, had died, And he had left his collection to the library, including his papers. And the library took all of the books and made a careful inventory of the things that we already had and added those things to our collection. And then we had these duplicates that we didn't need, including a set of Siebenmachers Wappenbuch, which is a set of around 100 volumes on German heraldry. And so Goodspeed's bookshop in Boston, which was one of the antiquarian book dealers, in those days it was Goodspeed and Tuttle were the two big antiquarian book dealers dealing in genealogy, paid us something like $9,000 for that duplicate collection that we didn't need. That was a huge sum of money for us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3118.98,3227.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in those days. And then at other times, there would be times that money would become available. And for instance, there was some year, I don't remember precisely what year it was, But the library had forgotten that they had received some kind of grant that they needed to spend on ethnic materials. And they only had like two or three days in which to get it in because they had forgotten about it or whatever. So they asked the different departments if they could come up with something to suggest what to buy to spend the money. So I suggested the Indian census rolls, which we had virtually nothing of them at that time. And I think it was like around $15,000 for this particular thing. And so it happened that, I came up with that right away, that other departments didn't really come up with anything in a very short time frame. They had to get it together, and I ended up getting all of the money. So we were able to do that, which I thought was quite a coup. And then we had these MURLS funds from the federal government, which I think stands for something like major urban resource libraries or research libraries or something like that. And you were allowed funds to buy things. And so for various years, The library got into the tune of like the hundreds of thousands of dollars, and it was distributed between the different subject departments of what you could get. But I would make proposals to buy microfilm, and I tended to make them very large because it doesn't really matter in the case of like census microfilm that you're buying an individual roll. So if you get this roll next year and you don't have room for the next five or something until the subsequent year, you can still buy it. So you buy as much as you have the money. So Jane Nowak, who was the head of the History Department after Mary Pratt, would argue that this was too much, and we should cut back, because they would never go for it. But I said, oh, let's just do it and see what happens. And generally speaking, I got everything that I asked for. So by thinking big, you ended up getting these things. And I've told you this story, I'm sure, myself, but I'll bring it up now. That it was going to be a visit to Los Angeles from the Duke and Duchess of York, which was Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. And they were coming to visit LA and do these little tourist things that royals do. And so they're going to visit the library and they would be presenting us with some sort of gift. So for some reason, I got to decide what we could get from them as our gift. So I elected to buy these maps of the Domesday Books, which was an early census from like 800 years ago. There had never been maps for them, and these maps would cost like more than $1,000. Well, as it happened, It was a rainy day or something in which they were supposed to come. And they were supposed to be going to both Universal Studios and LAPL, but in LA traffic they couldn't get between the two. So they went to Universal or whatever, but didn't come here. But we still got the gift. So we still got those maps for our collection. 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They're not in a book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992#t=3469.12,3474.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/114193/file/216992/transcript/61745/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're like a box? Yeah, I think I've seen them. Well, anything else you'd like to add? I'm trying to, oh, one of the things that I did learn from you is you had a manila folder that said, always keep a wish list available in case. 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