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I'm a librarian in the Literature and Fiction department of the Los Angeles Public Library, and it's my pleasure today, December 30th, 2023, to be speaking again with Robert Anderson, who's the Librarian three subject specialist in the Literature and Fiction department. This is the fourth of our interviews. We are recording in the Octavia lab at the Central Library in Los Angeles. And good morning Bob. We were -- last time we spoke we were just talking about how you and Helene had come to look at the Central Library, the renovated Central Library. Just before it was reopened, you were looking around at the new construction and seeing what your new digs would be. So it's kind of one of the things that, one of the questions I want to ask you is what... Did you have any role in particular in the lead up to the Central Library reopening? Did you... What were some ways that you were preparing for your return after the years in the wilderness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=19.7,92.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, one thing I remember is that, of course, we had the configuration of our new space at Central Library. We had been given the figures for how many shelves and so forth we would have in each part of the building. We had a map that showed what it would look like in the reading room and the closed stacks. And I do recall that we were trying to figure out, so what part of the collection, in the open shelves particularly, the closed stacks were pretty straightforward because we just would shelf all the Literature in one part and all the Fiction in one part. And there was no real controversy about that. But as-- Sorry","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=94.28,158.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e to interrupt. So just for people that are not -- we both work in the same department -- what's the difference between Literature and Fiction?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=158.26,164.955"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, people often ask us that in the department. So for the Los Angeles Public Library purposes, Fiction consists only of novels and short stories. So anything in the collection that falls into those categories is classed as Fiction, which means it doesn't get a call number, and anything else such as poetry, plays, and essays, and so forth, we would -- literary criticism, biographies of writers, and so forth -- we would consider to be part of the Literature collection, and those would have call numbers. So they would, so they were in our closed stacks. The collection is divided that way, that the books without call numbers, meaning the fiction books, are shelved in one big section and the books that have numbers are shelved in the other part of the closed stacks. But in the reading room, it was not at all clear. We had this layout, as did all the other departments, then it was up to us to decide what should go where. And Helene gave me the figures that they had for, we had the figures for approximately how much of our collection fell into each category.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=166.06,266.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e And Helene Mochedlover, even though we've talked about her in the other ones, in case anyone's only listened to this one, Helene Mochedlover is the principal in charge of Literature and Fiction. Sorry, go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=266.2,275.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e So she gave me the numbers and the map that showed where everything was relative to the reference, the new reference desk. And so she, she suggested that I try to come up with the most logical arrangement of the collection. So that that was about the most interesting thing I remember doing with the collection was...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=279.48,303.936"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e I never realized. So you actually were in charge of how it was going to be arranged on Lhe reading room floor?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=304.168,311.4"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I did kind of the first pass at it anyway, because all that she told...all that she said was, which she had said in the temporary library too, that she would like the Literature collection to be as close as possible to the reference desk. That was her preference. She had been part of the Literature department since she started in the system in 1966. She certainly loved a good novel herself, but she was always probably a little more partial to the Literature part of the collection just because she had worked with it longer. And I'm sure she had her other reasons for wanting it that way, but she, she said she would like to have literature closest to the reference desk. So I remember going through and looking at the way it was laid out, and it did seem as though there was this section on, as you walk into the department, the right side of the aisle that really encompassed one big, long, continuous range of books from the front to the --or shelves, I should say, not books at that point, just shelves, from the front to the back. They all would go in the same direction, and it was kind of a continuous thing. Whereas on the left side of the room, there were a bunch of somewhat smaller areas that were separated by seating areas. So it seemed to make the most sense, based on especially that she wanted Literature, at least some part of Literature, to be close to the reference desk, to have the Literature section be the part that was continuous on the right-hand side that ran from the front to the back of the room on the right-hand side. And since the Fiction collection is broken up in the public part of it, into sections like mysteries and science fiction and short stories as well as general fiction, to divide it up into those smaller components that were on the left side of the room. So that ended up leaving, we have, unlike all the other departments, we have this big space across the atrium on the other side of the atrium from the main collection, we have a large room that sits on top of the auditorium. And that had to be some particular part of the collection. So since it's such a good-sized room, it seemed like that was the logical place to put the general fiction, even though it's an area that people use a lot, but it's the furthest away from the reference desk. So there was no perfect way to do it, is what I guess I'm trying to say. Something would have been way over there across the walkway, and it ended up being the general fiction collection. But it is, the advantage is that it is in one big space, and it runs pretty logically from one side to the other. And then those smaller sections could be used, the smaller parts that were divided by the seating could be used for the mysteries and science fiction and so forth. I think that I pretty much came up with that, and most of it, I think, we did follow that. We had some things that we changed, and certain things have changed along the way since then. For instance, at the beginning, we had the audio books on the, as you come into the department, on the right side wall, which is kind of a small section of books, of shelves that's all kind of over there by itself, along the wall near the restrooms as you come in. Originally we had audios there and those got moved a long time ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=311.68,582.08"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e That's where they are, I think, in International Languages now, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=584.18,587.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I think so, yeah. But yeah, I remember that was kind of the main thing that I had to do with moving into it, that I kind looked at all the numbers and came up with, well, did the percentages, based on the percentages of what we had in the open shelves in temporary library, and ...what percentage of the new shelves would be filled up by what we had in the temporary library in each of those same sections, like mysteries, science fiction, literature, general fiction. And the percentage, so the way that I did it seemed to be the way that all the percentages, obviously they were different from section to section, but they were the closest to being, they were the most logical way to do it, is all I can say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=587.32,650.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Logically based on the percentages. Based","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=650.64,652.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e on the percentages, yeah, the number of books that were in each of those sections. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=652.54,657.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e the square footage of the fiction, which includes also mystery, not only the room across the bridge, walkway bridge, but also in science fiction, short stories, and mysteries and westerns were like roughly the percentage of the room that represented the percentage of those items in the collection overall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=657.28,673.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, they -- of course, we had a much smaller area in the open shelves on Spring Street. It was really a pretty small reading room area in the temporary library. So most of those numbers were pretty small figures, as I recall, like maybe a third of the shelves would be filled up or 40% or something like that, or sometimes even less, because we ended up moving more things from the closed stacks down as time went on. And then we were, of course, always getting new books to the point where now everything is pretty full on the open shelves and the closed stack shelves. But yeah, it was based on the numbers that we had on the open shelves at the temporary facility. So that was kind of the main thing that I remember contributing to in terms of the move, because I wasn't really involved in the actual move, unlike the move into the temporary library where the staff did it all, and we were all very, very involved in moving those books and getting them on the shelves, they did hire a professional moving company to move the books out of Spring Street Building and into the new Central Library. So the way that that worked was that the temporary Library closed down in, I think, I think I'm right that maybe in May of the, of 1993. Yeah, 1993. And then we were scheduled, the opening day was the beginning of October. So we were closed, completely closed for the whole summer of 1993. And most of the staff, including me, went off to various branches and spent most of the summer at this branch or that branch. And they had a small crew of supervisors who stayed. And then they had the clerks who stayed and put the barcodes on the new books after they got on, they were put on the shelves by the movers. So the big thing that happened after the movers moved the collection in, which was a much more straightforward process than the temporary building because everything was on the shelves in order. So they just... And of course they were handling it and they had moved other collections of books in the past. They were an experienced company, so they knew what they were doing. You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=674.34,873.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e don't remember the name of the company. 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And then once they got on the shelves, the staff, the skeleton crew who remained there at Central Library, was involved in putting barcodes on every book in the collection, which was a big job and it took them I think most of that summer to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=874.96,907.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So all the clerks from all the departments were gathered to do this and they were doing it in before they came to,they were doing it at Spring Street, it was created...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=907.02,917.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, they were doing it after the books got put on the shelves. ...at Central Library. 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The way that the barcodes were set up, each book in the catalog, they had all these -- I know you've heard me talk before about what we called the smart barcodes and the dumb barcodes. But the smart barcodes were... They had printed out these barcodes because we had the online catalog. So they took the online catalog and used that to create a set of barcodes that had the author, title, call number of every book printed on them. But there was just one reference and one circulating barcode like that that had, for every book, every title, I should say, every title in the collection, there were two smart barcodes created, a reference barcode and a circulating barcode. Those barcodes were placed on the corresponding books in question, but of course, there were a lot of books for which there were multiple circulating copies, so those had to have additional barcodes that did not have the author and title printed on them. So those were the dumb barcodes. Those were the barcodes that were just added to the books. They were placed on the books and then they had to make a record showing what book they had added the barcode to. And I wasn't involved in that, so I don't know the actual process that the clerks, whether they were writing them down on index cards or how they were doing it, but they may have had... I think maybe they had two copies of each barcode and they put one on the book and then one went on like a card or whatever, and then they would write the title down on that card. But I didn't do it, so I may be not remembering the details correctly. But anyway, the point was that they did it all when the books were on the shelves after they had been moved into their new location at Central Library, both in the open and closed stacks. So at least theoretically, every book that was in the catalog had these two barcodes that had the names on them. And of course, there are some books that only had a reference copy, and so the circulating copy smart barcode was not used, and then they were vice versa. Some books only had a circulating copy and the reference barcode would not be used, but they did create these two smart barcodes. And when, at the time that we opened, they still had not made the catalog live as far as the contents of the book. We had no actual holdings on the opening day in October 1993. They still had not gotten around to making --they were still working on getting everything together to make the catalog live as far as the actual contents. So the online catalog at that point, all it showed was the smart barcode. So for every book in the catalog at that time, it showed, at least for several weeks, I'm sure, it showed just, every single book showed a reference copy and a circulating copy. Whether they had those or not, even the books in Rare Books showed a reference copy and a circulating copy. And of course, nothing in Rare Books has any circulating copies. So it was a little confusing for the public for those opening weeks after October 3rd I think it was when we reopened. Anyway, it was...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=928.84,1190.88"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what the barcodes tell us. Let me ask you a couple of questions about this, of course. Which department was in charge of the barcoding? So all the clerks from all departments were working, presumably, on their own collections, but --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1191.58,1207.029"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e But not all the clerks. It was a smaller group of people. It wasn't the whole clerical staff. It was a lot of the people from cataloging and technical services, I think, were working on it. It's really hard to remember, since I wasn't there, who was left. I know that, for instance, during that summer, I was working at the Palms Rancho Park branch back in my neighborhood. And one of the clerks from the Business department was also working there at that time. So I know that it wasn't the whole clerical staff who was working on this. It was just as many people as they thought they needed for the project. And I think a lot of them were the technical services staff that were involved in putting the barcodes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1207.84,1261.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so the, and then, because this is the Central Library collection, of course, the barcoding was being done system-wide. So when you were, for instance, at Palms Rancho Park, did you, from the branch point of view, how is the barcoding proceeding? Because they would also have to do that, presumably.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1263.1,1280.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they did that one branch at a time. And, yeah, up to that point, which is an interesting point that we had -- when we had opened in the temporary central library, we had an online catalog, of course, because the card catalogs had all been taken apart to do the inventory of the collection. And they had no plans to have a card catalog ever again. But the online catalog did not show specifically what copies were, how many copies there were of any particular item. It showed the whole system. Yeah, or even at Central Library, it just showed, well, yeah, it just showed that we had the book. And so, but it was, and my memory is that it was toward the end of the time that we were at the temporary library that they started barcoding some of the branches. And they had this crew that would go around to different branches that was part of, again, tech services people. And so they did it like one branch at a time or maybe two branches at a time, I don't know. But at the time that we shut down for the move, I think there were only maybe two, three, four branch holdings in the collection. It's my memory that Mar Vista was the pilot branch, and they did that one first, and then the Mar Vista holdings showed up in the catalog. So we did have, at the time that we opened at Central, there were some holdings for a few branches, but the branches were gradually added over a number of months around that time. And I think at the time that we opened, most of the branches still had not been barcoded, but they were barcoded not too long after that. So, yeah, so there were a few branch holdings in the catalog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1281.34,1414.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, thank you. And then the other one is when I've never got... I'm sorry. When I came here, I noticed that some of the books had double barcodes, and not in terms of sometimes double barcodes because there's a bad barcode that's replaced by a new one, but they look like they came from the same era. Was that part of this process? Was that a smart and a dumb together or that's not how it worked?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1415.58,1438.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that for some reason in the early days, there were a lot of barcodes that when they finally did make the catalog live, there were a lot of problems with it. There were a lot of books that for one reason or another the barcode did not show up when they went to check something out and for whatever reason for a while I think the circulation staff was told put a new barcode on it. They didn't do it for all that long, but you do still find older books that have, you're right, there's older books that have two barcodes on them. And I think for whatever reason, they told them instead of just re-entering the barcode that was there, they should put a new barcode on it. And they didn't take the old one off. They, a lot of times, they just left them on. So it did make for some confusion, and I don't think they did it for all that long. But I think that's why there are some books that have, that, older books from the 90s, mostly, that have two barcodes on them. As I say, there were lots of problems when the catalog did go live. There were all sorts of strange things that happened. There were a lot of books, because what was supposed to happen was all the copies that actually existed were supposed to show up in the catalog with their barcodes, and all the ones that didn't exist, like the smart barcodes, like a book that didn't have a reference copy, but there was a reference smart barcode, or a book that didn't have a circulating copy, those smart barcodes would go away. But the problem was a lot of them didn't go away. And we would find them in the catalog and realize, oh, those copies don't exist. They never existed. They were just, they were these phantom, we would call them phantom barcodes because they were never attached to any book. Sometimes, for whatever reason, they didn't put the smart barcodes on some books. Who knows why? They couldn't find the book when they were barcoding things and they just put regular, ordinary, no-name, dumb barcodes on the books. And the smart barcodes were never used for some books. So, there were, in our department, in literature, which is what I'm the most familiar with, I know that we had a big problem with, for some reason, the numbers that started with 809.2, and especially the longer ones. I don't know whether that had anything to do with it, that the decimal points went out for several, several numbers after the decimal. Like 809.2954 and numbers like that. But for whatever reason, a lot of the books in that area ended up with two smart barcodes in the catalog that did not correspond to any book in the collection. So you would find these books that would have two reference copies and a circulating copy listed in the catalog. And it actually only had one reference. And people would come in and say, well, it looks like you've got three copies of this book. And it turned out we only had one, because the other two were the phantom barcodes that were supposed to go away and didn't. And there were tons of those books in the catalog. And we spent a lot of time in the early days deleting them. And technical services was trying to work to get all the glitches in the catalog worked out. Another strange thing that happened specific to the fiction collection. You and I both know this, but most people are not aware that the fiction collection uses these letters that our public always asks us about to designate editions of fiction books. So if there's a new introduction or a new translation or whatever, we call them edition A, edition B, edition C, et cetera, as more editions are published. And so, especially for classic works of fiction, there are a lot of editions in the catalog and people are always baffled by them because they show up in the call number field and people think that must mean that it's a place to shelve them. Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1439.44,1730.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e especially since in the OPAC, I believe it says that it's a shelf location. So people say, \"Where's Ed c.?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1730.58,1735.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. So it really, our library, way back at the beginning, we should have, instead of just having a blank as the fiction non-call number, just a blank space or an addition A or whatever, They really should have had something like other libraries that I've seen where they had \"Fiction\" or FIC or something like that and letters of the alphabet or something of that sort too. So that there was something that showed up in that field because people always feel that, well, if there's nothing in that field, does that mean you don't have the book? Well, no, it doesn't. It just means it's a fiction book. But anyway, to get back to what I started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1735.92,1782.86"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But before we go back, just so people know, the editions go through all the letters, and some of the books, like I know that Jane Austen, Cervantes' Don Quixote, there's, and what are some other books that have more, like some of those are up to triple Cs, so it goes through the alphabet twice, and then a third time, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1783.14,1798.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e There are a few that I think of, only a handful that I think of, like Pride and Prejudice or some of the Don Quixote. There's a few that have had so many editions that they've gone through --once we got to edition Z, then we started over with edition AA, edition BB, and a few, very few of them have edition AAA or BBB, just a handful of books like that. Would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1802.56,1833.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e it be like, besides the ones I mentioned, would it also be maybe some Dickens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1833.58,1836.8"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe. I don't know that it happens. But","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1837.94,1839.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e that's a lot. I mean, it's what, 54 edition or 53 editions or more? It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1839.72,1843.896"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e would be the really, really, really famous classic books that would have made it through 50 different editions. But what happened with the barcodes was that since there's a lot of books, many books have edition A's and edition B's in the catalog, edition... Somehow the system did not always differentiate between those when they were doing the dumb barcodes. So there were certain books that would end up with 30 items attached to them that were, say, edition A, and it would say, you'd look it up, and they would be 30 items there. Like, it would say, reference circulating, reference circulating, reference circulating. And they were all, they were apparently other books that were also edition A, edition A of some other novel, but they had all, they called it migrating, they had all migrated to certain records in the catalog. And so, and we knew they, we could figure out which ones were the right ones for that book by going to the shelf and looking, but we had no idea what all these other, were these books that did not exist at all, were they other books, because sometimes they would be checked out and you didn't know whether they were a completely different edition A of some other book that was checked out. So there was a lot of that at the beginning that tech services had to spend a lot of time trying to figure out what happened and what went wrong with all those barcoding problems. So there was that and there were also sections, especially in the closed stacks, that we would discover for many years, oh here's a whole two shelves that never got barcoded. And so they, somebody had to go up there and barcode them and get them added to the catalog. Do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1843.896,1973.92"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e you think there are any left over?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1973.92,1975.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't imagine. There's probably a few books here and there. I would not be surprised if there's, if somewhere up there, there's three books here or two books there that, that haven't been barcoded. But for the most part, I think we, we found them all after, after 30 years, I think they've pretty much all resurfaced. So there were a lot of issues like that in the early months and early years, actually, of the online catalog. Well, the catalog with the actual holdings, I should say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=1976.82,2011.52"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e So the books that -- and people should know when you move the books into the -- movers move books not only to the the reading room shelves but also to the closed stacks, how did you differentiate what would go in the closed stacks and what would have been open stacks?Because this is the first time that you were probably able to put a lot of books in the open stacks or the reading room stacks where people could see them because prior to -- of course Spring Street is limited to what the public could see. And then, of course, the old Central Library was pretty limited. So that must have been exciting, actually, to be able to provide more access to the public. And how did you make a decision about, what were some of the procedures that you made or when you were considering what would be in closed stacks and what would be in open reading room stacks?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2011.96,2064.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No. The movers just moved everything as is. So it was whatever, however it was, it was in the temporary Central Library. They put the closed stacks books in the closed stacks and the open stacks books in the open stacks. So it was more a matter of that we would look at the sections that had the most room downstairs. I know initially the mysteries had a lot of room in the reading room. So we did in the early days, we brought down a lot of, we went through and brought down a lot of the older mysteries from the closed stacks, because it just happened that that section did not have a huge amount of space at the temporary library. And it had a bigger space, definitely much bigger in the new library. So we kind of based it on that, the particular parts of the collection. And then it was just a matter of going up and looking for authors that we thought were the most likely to circulate, and that people would be the happiest to have access to on the open shelves. So that's really the way it was, just kind of a gradual process over quite a long period of time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2064.96,2156.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I hope we have time to loop back and talk about how different reading styles have changed, like what's available and what people are asking for. But I don't want to get into that quite yet. But if there's – but at the time – but in speaking of what is available at the time, it was mysteries or you said a big representation, science fiction representation and probably greater Western representation than they are now. I know just in the time that I've been the last 20 years, I've seen the Western collection kind of disappear, you know --get smaller, and then more people are also asking for fantasy. So at the time that you came in, there was like, that was, the Westerns were more popular, For instance, is there any--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2156.68,2206.354"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, definitely. When I started working, there was still, I don't know, I think they really had their peak, I think, in the, Well, I think they were quite popular even in the Zane Grey era, which would be like the early 20th century. But then they certainly in the 50s and 60s, Westerns were still very popular. At the time that I started in 1980, we had a huge demand for Louis L'Amour at that time, and he died not too many years after that, but he was still writing at that point and was very popular with readers. But Westerns were already at that point starting to wane in popularity, but there were still publishers. I know that Doubleday and Walker had lines of westerns that they specifically published, westerns, like at least one or two every month. So we did have still a growing Western collection at that time. It wasn't growing too fast, but it was still growing. Since that time, it's definitely been a steady downhill process. I think you'd have to say there just aren't new Westerns, for the most part, are not getting published by major publishers, except maybe some still in paperbacks. So we're getting very few new Westerns in the collection, and people are not reading the old ones nearly as much as they used to. There used to be a big demand for the Zane Grey books and the Max Brand books and Louis L'Amour. There's still some demand, but we've definitely... There's very little in the Westerns that's getting ordered, whereas as you were saying, science fiction and fantasy have probably have gradually increased in popularity during the time that I've been working. And there are more people who are interested in those genres. I think mysteries is sort of a constant. Mysteries were popular when I started, and mysteries are still popular. And mysteries are kind of interesting because there are a lot of old mystery fans, which more so even than... There are people who read classic science fiction authors, but I'd say classic mystery authors maybe get read more than any other classic authors. Well, I shouldn't say more than the big name, the major literary authors, but as far as popular fiction, Popular older fiction authors pretty much sort of fade away. The general fiction authors who were popular 40 years ago, they tend to fade away for the most part after they die, whereas the mystery authors, a lot of them kind of hang on and people still are interested in going back and reading the ones from 30, 40, 50, 60 years ago. So that's kind of an interesting feature of the mystery collection. But science fiction and fantasy definitely have gained in popularity. And I guess you would say horror is probably a more popular genre today than it was when I started, which was around the time when Stephen King was just barely getting started. Of course, we had Lovecraft in those days that people were reading then and are still reading. But that's certainly an area that has gained in popularity. Romance readers, I think, there were a lot of romance readers when I started, and I think that's another genre that's continuously popular, but tastes have changed, I think, more than in some of the other genres in romances. There's different kinds of romances that are more popular. They of course tended to be more on the more G-rated or PG-rated side, at least most of them, when I started. There's people who are definitely more into the spicier ones, but then there's still a demand for the... It's interesting that the religious publishers have kind of taken over the clean side of the romance genre, and a lot of the ones where people are happy if they just kiss at the end of the book, those are the ones that now the Christian publishers and some others of that sort are specializing in these days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2208.12,2557.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e A lot of those are historical or like Amish, I noticed. There are many that are current too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2558.04,2563.84"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e True. There's a lot of... Yeah, there's definitely... There's a group who likes contemporary stories and there's a group that likes the ones, the historical romances, and there's some who like the cleaner ones and some who like the spicier ones. And I don't know that there's a huge amount of crossover among all those. No,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2564.16,2592.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e but what I remember when I started, we had generic Harlequin and Silhouette romances or on or kind of in their own, like they had these spinner shelves for those and those have just disappeared from our collection more or less. Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2592.34,2606.18"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e we aren't buying nearly as many of the the mass-market paperbacks. I think they're still, they're still getting published and I think most people now read them as e-books. I think that's one genre that has pretty much gone, for a lot of people anyway, it's gone to e-books. Right. 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And sometimes, but it must make sense for a smaller publisher or a publisher that's looking to cut costs that they don't actually have to print anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2626.32,2650.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that's why that's happening, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2651.26,2655.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But yeah. A lot of those readers are left out in the lurch if they don't like to read e-books. But anyway, so another is fantasy, which is, and I guess what I'm asking, or I mean, there's a lot we could talk about this. It's probably more interesting to you and me than a lot of the people who might be listening to this. But when we first started, there were the genres. I mean, I'm sorry, our current genres, like we were saying, are mystery, Western, science fiction. And we also have a separate thing for short stories, but that's not genre. But there's funny, because as things like horror and fantasy become more popular, and we get a lot of questions about horror, There's a lot of people that think that, that are disappointed to find that there's not a separate section for those. How do those original ones were, do you remember how those original genres are determined? Or is there any way that the, the, has there ever been any consideration of making new genres or would that be just far too complicated? And by new genres, I mean, to the people who are listening, I mean, like having a shelf label and a location label that would distinguish it from general fiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2656.84,2727.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course, in the Los Angeles system, the genre part happened long before my time. So it was already in place in my childhood, Los Angeles Public Library branches. And those were the, as I recall, those were the genres that were there at the time were the mysteries, science fiction, and Westerns. And then we had the short stories, which are not exactly a genre, but they're shelved like a genre, short story anthologies. It certainly would make some of our readers happy if we had a romance section or a fantasy section or a horror section. And I don't, in my time, we've never seriously talked about it. We've said, well, wouldn't it be nice if, but we all know that given the size of our collection, that doing that, I guess you could start at a certain point and say, okay, from now where all the horror books will have, you know, HOR on them or whatever. And, but it would be a huge process going through the whole collection and deciding, well, should this be in fantasy? Should this be in horror? Well, some of these books are both fantasy and horror. Where should they be? So it's, it's, and romance, the same, the same thing. Some people would say, why is this book, why did you put this book in the romance section? This is, yeah, it has a love story in it, but it's not really a romance novel. So, it, The collection is of such a size that it would be really difficult to do at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2730.06,2857.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e And in some ways, yeah, like you're saying, we might not be able to do it to the satisfaction of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2857.64,2863.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e a lot of people. We already have people who are unhappy about some things being in the mysteries or not being in the mysteries. And sometimes they have good points about that. 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But at some point before my time it was decided that mysteries were going to be limited pretty much to murder with a detective or an amateur detective or... policeman or whatever who's trying to solve a murder. But, but Yeah, some of the older ones that are in our mystery collection do not fall into that category. But they were cataloged there a long time ago, and that's where they're staying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2882.64,2922.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Same with the thrillers, right? Because there's a lot of things that would be a murder mystery, but if it's in the legal, medical, or financial world, it's considered part of fiction. It's just, we just will go ahead with that. Anyway, that's probably too inside over a lot of things. But getting back to the early days, I think you've described how it's been laid out for the physical books, but also, when were the rise of the InMagic databases? Did that come much later? And do we want to talk about what existed beforehand in those different, like a card catalog, we had card catalogs representing some of the things that are now represented in InMagic databases. Do you wanna talk about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2922.1,2967.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Actually, InMagic databases started before The Fire. Because I know we were, we started, I remember going to a couple of InMagic seminars where they taught us about it. And so the idea was, oh, we should put some of these special departmental files into InMagic databases because people are going to want the information online in the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=2968.02,3002.28"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you want to describe what these are to people? Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3002.3,3004.54"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I should, yes. So InMagic is a particular company that provides the software that enables you to create databases where you can set up a list of fields like, well, in the case of a lot of ours, they involve authors, titles, subject matter, plot summaries, time periods, locales, and so forth. So you can set up a database, and you can pick out whatever identifiers you think you're going to need, whatever access points you're going to need, and create a field for each one of those, and then all this gets named as a database, and then you can start adding records to your database, and it becomes searchable online.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3004.54,3079.78"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e An example of ours is...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3081.5,3083.04"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, so we have... In the Fiction department we decided that the ones that merited being converted into online databases. The most would be our Series and Sequels file, which where we have lists of novels that fall into different series and books that have sequels written to them, sometimes sequels by authors other than the original author. So we had, and still have the remnants of, a card file, but it was all a card file for many decades of series and sequels. And then there was also a card file of our big California Fiction database, which I mentioned in one of our other sessions earlier, that we had much of the staff for many years, spent a lot of time giving subject headings to fiction books, and in particular California fiction, we would add locales within California and time periods when the stories took place. So we have these card files that, and well, there is, there's still a card file that exists that you can look up by the author, but you could also look up by a particular California locale, or you can look up by a time period, like a decade, when a story took place and find a listing for it. So, we decided that the California Fiction Index would also be a good one to convert. And so we started work on this probably a couple of years, maybe before the fire. And so we were very gradually getting items put into both of those databases. And we were thinking about doing one for even the general fiction part of our fiction file, which would have been a huge project. 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We","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3237.04,3238.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e were just using one, you were helping me use one to find feminist fiction from the 60s. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3238.62,3243.22"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, so the card catalogs, we do still have them in our department of the fiction subject index. A lot of times people wander in and say, oh, you still have a card catalog. But of course, it's a very specialized card catalog. It's sort of like, oh, a card catalog, how quaint. But we do hold on, have held on to them because the fiction, the general fiction subject index is something that isn't replicated anywhere else. So ...it doesn't get used an enormous amount, but it does still have its uses. But eventually, we have added most of the series and sequels cards to the InMagic file. And of course now we put all the new series and sequels into the InMagic file.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3243.4,3312.68"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, because some of the earlier ones of you were, earliest records have just a photocopy of the card or an image of the card. I think that's more prevalent in the or more common in the California Index, but you definitely see it in some of ours too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3312.98,3326.98"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, we did. We did get when they started digitizing different parts of the collection. We did... the one thing they were interested in, as far as our collection, that they thought was a manageable size and so forth that they could do, was to digitize the California file, subject file, California fiction subject file, I should say. And so, because we had, I had been gradually trying to put in those older cards, but I didn't get very far. There was so much other work to be done, and so it was a very slow and laborious process, and I never got beyond somewhere in the bees working on it as doing it in a manual thing, adding it into the database. But they eventually digitized the whole thing. And It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. It works pretty well, because it does have locales on the cards, and it has time periods on the cards. So sometimes the typing is not the clearest. There's typos and things like that that make it not perfect, but it works quite well, the part that was added in that was digitized from those cards. So those are two of the ones that we have in our department. But most of the departments we're working on, and I think still are to some extent, working on different databases that are accessible to the public on the list of library databases. They're in the alphabetical list of library databases, along with all the ones that we subscribe to. So yeah, we did start that process when we were at Central Library before the fire. And I know that we had a few computer terminals when we were at the Rio Vista warehouse and we would spend a lot of our, well not a lot, we spent some of our time when we could, we, as I say, we only had three terminals I think for the whole Central staff who was there at Rio Vista so we would, we had to sort of sign up for our hours that we wanted to use them, but we would spend a few hours a week adding records there on Rio Vista. So it's been an ongoing process for quite a few years, those online files that are done with the InMagic .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3327.36,3503.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e We still do it, I know that you and I have commiserated over trying to find the California locations in some books and sometimes there are books that use fake, use their or I think of the Ross McDonald or the --what's the one the Sue Grafton, use names that are not, that are real places, but the names have been changed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3504.96,3528.99"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, they doing a low, a geographic California fiction index is a challenging, it's always been somewhat challenging, but when they started it, when they started the card file, which I think was maybe 1930s, there weren't nearly as many California books being published. I mean, there were, obviously, there were California books, or they wouldn't have started the file, but it was a smaller subset of the fiction genre than it is today, I think we can safely say. It's gotten to the point where it's ... quite a challenge, let's say, to keep adding them in there, because we'll take a bunch of books off the shelf to look through them, and it'll be like, sometimes it seems like every fourth or fifth book you open up, oh, this one takes place in California too. 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That's usually romance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3594.72,3605.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e That's always interesting too, where you see that it starts out in California and you realize, oh, they left in the third chapter. They left. Well, years ago, when they were still dealing with the card file, they were doing what they called minor listings, where they would say, Beverly Hills is minor. And at some point we said, well those are definitely going away because that would take forever nowadays if you were listing every single book where they flew into LAX or that they spent like 15 pages at the airport or that kind of thing. But they used to, yeah, I know that Katie Leidich, my supervisor when I started, she said that Reva Bressler, the last principal librarian of Fiction, always used to say, \"If they walk down the street in California, you should put it in there.\" Well, we definitely don't do that anymore because it would be way too time-consuming and most people don't care about...most people don't want a book where they just walk down the street and then they're off to some other locale. So we have, we tend not even to put them in if, say, maybe a quarter of the book takes place in California. It had better be a really nicely descriptive quarter of the book or it's not going to go in there. So it's changed over the years, definitely, because of the sheer quantity of what gets published and the popularity of California as a setting for fiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3606.48,3719.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you. Yeah. So that was interesting. That was just something that continued when you moved in. It was already in place. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3720.06,3729.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e It just, that pretty much went on as it had been.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3729.12,3732.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Certainly made the clerks' lives easier, though. That's great. So let's see. Was there more-- Is there anything like--so you said that it would take a while to get some of the records, and CARL sorted out, just growing pains and so on. What else was going on technologically during the 90s as you guys settled in? Not even technologically, just generally as you settled in to the Library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3733.44,3762.035"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well of course, you know, this isn't technological, but of course we had the whole question of Sunday hours that we had never had before in any of our working lifetimes. I think many, many years ago, Central Library had been open on Sundays.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3762.44,3780.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e And Sunday evenings even, I think. Right,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3780.78,3782.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e but in modern times, the LAPL had never had Sunday hours. When Central Library opened, which was on a Sunday, it was not, at least it was not stated that we were going to have permanent Sunday hours. It was supposed to be the first month or the first three months. It was supposed to be just for the beginning that we would have these special hours for the opening. People from throughout the system could volunteer to work those hours, as I believe, overtime. So that was the idea. This is just a special thing to celebrate Central Library's opening. And then after a couple of weeks went by, because Sundays were a very busy day at that time, and we would get big crowds every Sunday. And so then the city librarian, who was still Elizabeth Martinez at that point, announced that, well, it's been such a success that we've decided we're going to make Sunday hours permanent. And so that turned, then once that happened, because the unions had agreed, well, yes, we can be open on Sundays as long as it's a voluntary thing and people can do it and get paid for, get paid overtime. I think I'm right that it was overtime. I never did it when it was voluntary, so I don't remember the exact details. I was not interested in working Sundays until I had to. So, I did not even come to the grand opening, I admit. I did not come ... because I had other things I wanted to do with my Sundays. So I did not come in on that Sunday. But once it became a situation of, yes, this is going to go on indefinitely and probably forever. Then it turned into a negotiations issue and it went on for, well, for quite a while it was still voluntary and that was how they had to do it for quite a few years. It was people, that people from throughout the system could volunteer to work at Central Library on Sundays and eventually they added the regional branches too. But I think that may have been after we had a real working contract. I don't think they could have done that before we had it in our contract, the new procedures for Sunday hours. But it was a few years that we were open where we didn't have to work Sundays and it was all based on volunteers from throughout the system. And of course, what that meant was that a lot of times, there was nobody in many of the departments who was actually part of that department staff. And sometimes there was nobody who was actually part of the Central Library staff who was working in the department. So it made for some kind of problematic situations. And I wasn't, of course, since I wasn't working Sundays, I wasn't there, so I didn't experience any of those. I would just hear about, oh, this happened on this last Sunday because nobody knew about this procedure or that procedure. So it was getting more complicated to keep the Library staffed on Sundays. And they finally after several years, they did negotiate the system that we have had pretty ever since in more or less the same form. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=3782.62,4056.66"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e like 1996 or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=4056.66,4058.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Somewhere. Yeah, I don't remember what, how long it was, but a few years after we reopened, I think that, okay, now all Central Library staff will have to work one Sunday out of four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=4058.86,4075.7"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e All Central Library subject department staff. 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So, in the questions we have, I do want to ask you about what was going on, you know, during the financial downturn and then, of course, COVID. But I want to --but that's kind of a big jump from the mid 90s to 2009. Is there, I know that CARL went through a change, right? So it became like a GUI system, like so-called graphic user interface system in the 2000s. Was there anything worth mentioning about that? Is there anything that happened that's worth mentioning during the 90s that you make sure we get to? 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It must have been, it was maybe in the later 90s, I don't remember, but it was, so it was that Carl developed a system whereby we could place online holds on books because when we first reopened with the online catalog and even when we got the catalog that had the actual copies and copy locations included in it, we were still, as I recall, pretty much using our old system of placing holds on books for people when a book was checked out, which involved postcards. And by then, the postcards, I think, they had gone, for many years, they were 25 cents, and they had gone up to 50 cents because postage was going up. 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Sometimes at the branches, they would even call people to tell them that their books had come in. But, yeah, I don't think that really changed that much. But we were still using the postcards. And so people would call a lot more, which I already mentioned all this before, that in the days before we had an online reserve system for books, that a lot of it was done by calling. If it wasn't at your branch, you would call other branches, and you would call Central Library and have them send them out. And of course, there was once the every all the branches had the online catalog and once all the holdings were there, they you could find out much more easily, oh, this branch has it. So that reduced the number of postal reserves, I think, in the last years of that system because they could at least see, oh this branch has it, and they could call the branch, and then you wouldn't have to spend the money on a postcard. You could call the branch and have them send it to your branch. So the postcards were gradually going away. But we still used them, especially when we had waiting lists for bestsellers and that kind of thing. We used the postcards. But then Carl had added this component to our system where people could place holds using their library card numbers, and this would be system-wide. And then the book would be sent from wherever in the system. So wherever the system, the book was on the shelf. And so the way that this worked, I mean, you and I know this, but I should explain that once this went into effect, when the act of placing holds, either the staff placing them or the public placing them, these online holds using their library card numbers, the next day a list would be generated at every public library agency of the books in their collection that had holds placed on them. And they were, then somebody from the staff would have to go and search for those books, and this is still true today, I shouldn't make it sound like it's in the past, that the staff needs to go and search for those books and wand them in with the barcodes and have them and send them off to the requesting branch where the patron wants to pick the book up. So this was a huge change for the whole library system, because among other things, it meant that the new books, the bestsellers and so forth, became a system-wide collection. And that took a little getting used to because in the past, it had always been the case that, say, you had a new, Oh, say, Tom Clancy book or something like that that was going to get a whole lot of holds on it. Your branch had to buy a lot of copies of that book. Or they also had what's called... I don't know whether this still exists anywhere in the world, but there was what was called the McNaughton Plan, where this company, McNaughton, would send books, bestseller copies, to libraries on a temporary... You had, obviously, if the library had to pay McNaughton X amount of money to have a subscription to this, but they would send the library and individual branches however many copies of this book they thought they might need. And they had special McNaughton labels on the outsides of them, but they were also labeled Los Angeles Public Library. And then, so then they, the branch would hold on to them as long as they had the demand for the book, and then they could return them to McNaughton as part of that deal. Obviously, there was cash involved paid to McNaughton for this, but... And then McNaughton did whatever, or the branch could decide that they wanted to keep one and add it to their permanent collection if they wanted to. But many of them they would send back and then McNaughton did whatever. They found some other place to donate them or do something with these used books that were still in decent shape. So that went on for many, many, many years. I know when I worked at Palms Rancho Park Branch, they would keep a record of these bestsellers at the desk. They would have a stack of the postcards for all the people who had put holds on the bestsellers, and then they would have a little piece of paper on the top of the stack of postcards for Judith Krantz or Daniel Steele or whoever. It would list all the different copies by the copy number. It would say, copy 501, copy 502, 503. And then when the books would come back, they would make a note so they could keep track of how many books were getting returned, how many books seemed to have disappeared in circulation, and how many copies they still had, and so forth. So it was a very involved process for the bestsellers. But the point is that the bestsellers would just be... Every branch had to think in terms of, how many copies are we going to need of this book to fill all the people who are going to put holds for our branch? But all of a sudden, with the new circulation system, the whole collection became system-wide. The holds all were system-wide. There was one hold list for when a new John Grisham book came out, the holds were for every branch of the system was on one big list, and you were sending your, if your branch bought some copies, they could get, it didn't mean that your patrons were gonna get them, they could be sent off somewhere else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=4423.68,4878.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e You might not see them for a few months. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=4879.02,4880.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e this took a lot of... It was something that all of us had to get used to the idea of, well, branch collections are no... Especially these new bestseller books are no longer exclusively the property of that branch. So, there was a lot of talk that went on involving that, and it kind of, everything sort of had to be reconfigured as far as how many copies everybody was buying. And they came up with things like, they do have collections at some of the branches that are, they can buy one or two copies of bestsellers that are exclusive to that branch. But for the most part, the bestsellers now, like all the other books, are a system-wide loan collection, and they go wherever they are needed. So that was a big shift that took place, plus the added work for... Well, I mean, I guess you could say some work went away, like the whole bookkeeping thing for a lot of the things with the postcards and all that went away. But on the other hand, It created a lot more holds because it became, not too long after that, I believe, it became free to do that. Once they had it as, they weren't using postcards anymore and it all was an automated system, they didn't have a real rationale for charging, so it became a free thing. So, obviously, the number of holds increased by a whole lot, and they were getting sent all over the system, so that meant there had to be a lot. Every day, staff of every agency had to spend time searching for the books on their daily list of items that somebody had requested. So It really reconfigured the way the library staff spent their time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=4880.74,5016.94"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but especially the fiction department, because fiction being the most popular part of the collection and your department having most of the fiction, that was something that really changed the way you spent your days. You spent a lot more time looking for books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5017.12,5035.02"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and I spent a lot of time. I try, I mean, the clerks in our department are the ones who do most of the searching for the books on the shelves, but I do try to look at the lists and figure out why they're not finding certain things, and that can be complicated in itself. So it has involved a lot of my time in over the years and it's involved time of many other people but yeah our literature and fiction department certainly has the most holds of any of the Central Library departments, and so we have the longest lists. I'm sure there are some like social sciences that have quite long lists, too. And certain branches, certain larger branches have fairly long lists, but I don't think any of them really compare to the lists at Central Library. So it is A big part of our job is sending books out to other libraries in the system. About","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5035.04,5106.42"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e on average how many books... I mean, and of course, sorry, that was what was when we came back from lockdown. I remember that was really what we were doing first, was maintaining that system, even though people weren't coming into the libraries.But we can talk about that in a bit. But on average, what would you say, I know it's the number of books that would be on the router, how long the router would be. And the router is the name for this system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5106.42,5132.72"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e And I'd say it has gone down in recent years. So it used to be longer than it is now, partly because of e-books. And e-books have their own waiting list, but of course, You don't have to look on the shelves for them. So that's... It does... It has made the lists of the physical books shorter, but they're still pretty long. I'd say these days, I'd say an average one, there's... It's... Like the fiction list maybe an average day there might be 15 pages and they each each page has 15 items so that would be like 225 books that are on a fiction list The literature list is probably like half that. So we're talking like an average day maybe 300-something books on the list. And then if there was a holiday, and Mondays are always—we don't search for routers on Sundays since we're only open half day. So Mondays are always a long list. So Monday could be maybe even twice the size of that some days or substantially larger on a Monday. They tend to kind of diminish in size as the week goes by.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5133.34,5216.62"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's not reflected by our circulation, right? Because I think, I believe that the books, when they're sent to the branch, the ordering branch receives the circ stat for it. As","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5216.72,5225.58"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e far as the basic, I think they keep statistics of how many copies we send out to other agencies. But yeah, as far as the numbers for circulation, those are reflected in the branch where the book is set, not in the central library figures. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5225.58,5248.76"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. So we have about, it's about 1040. I think we have probably five minutes left to be judicious, but I wanted to point out that when you said that you spend some time doing that and checking, it really under undersells what you do. I mean one thing that you've done, I think you started at UCLA, was be able to find books that other people can't find. And I've always admired that and know you've actually taught me some of the tricks in how to find books that other people can't find. Do you think we have enough time to go into some of the basics?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5249.16,5285.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, if you want to. I don't know that it's going to interest anybody else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5285.94,5290.34"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I mean, I think it's actually rather remarkable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5290.76,5293.3"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e The two of us. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5293.52,5294.96"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5294.96,5295.46"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5295.48,5296.12"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But certainly, we have a lot of people that are looking for books on the shelf who work here, and I'm sure almost none of them employ some of the intellectual property that you've gathered over the years, so they're kind of a trade secret. But","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5296.5,5306.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e as far as, I would say that I do tend to look, certainly if there's something that I can't find when I first am looking for it, I try to look through everything on the shelf. Most of the time, I'll try to at least take a quick look on the shelf above and the shelf below because a surprising number of things are just a little bit out of place and they're just not quite where they should be. So you do find a lot that way. And usually I put my hand behind the shelf and make sure that nothing fell back behind, because I've found many books back there over the years. Of course, sometimes you'll just- Like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5307.5,5354.14"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e pushed back from-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5354.14,5355.32"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Unintentionally pushed back and lying back behind. Of course, sometimes you find sticky stuff back there, like gum or whatever, or who knows what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5356.34,5365.88"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But if you're looking at the book and... it's a certain number of pages, it's more likely that it's been pushed back because it's lighter and smaller. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5366.32,5373.74"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e little paperbacks especially tend to, sometimes they end up lying in back behind the other books. So I will do things like that. Some of the things with books that have call numbers, the literature collection, I've found that there's things like, some of our numbers, people tend to get them a little bit interchanged. So things like 811, which is our poetry, and 812, which is our play section. And they're both a lot of skinny little books. Sometimes you'll discover, oh, here's a few 812s and the 811s, or vice versa. For some reason, things like 817 and 818, numbers that are next to each other, sometimes they do tend to get each other's books shelved in those sections. So there's things like that. Sometimes books will be shelved in the fiction section. There will be an author. I try to think, is there some other author that this might have been shelved under, maybe a similar name. Say the author's name is Harper. Well, maybe it's in some other name nearby that starts with HAR. Maybe it was the author right before that, there's some common name or maybe there's Hart right after that and those somehow got inter-filed. There's mistakes like that that get made a lot more, Morgan and Morton and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5373.94,5486.88"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Gardner and Garner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5487.08,5488.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah,  Gardner and Garner is a good example of that. So there's a lot of things like that. And then sometimes, sometimes you find out that the book just wasn't, One problem that we have is that a number of our books, especially books from countries that use other alphabets, they get cataloged using different spellings of people's names from the names that are on the book, or the name that looks like the last name on the book is actually the first name, so the book is cataloged under a name that looks like, when you're looking at it, it looks like it might be the first name of the person. And some of those, if they've... We try to catch them all and label them when they come into the department, but some of them get sent off to Phil Holds right away. And we're the department is the ones that... We're the ones that have to label it. The catalog department and technical processing do not label those for us. So we have to catch them. If they get sent off to a branch right at the beginning, then they don't get labeled. So sometimes I'll look in the catalog and realize, oh, this one is, I can see in the catalog record, the name on the book is different from the name that it's been cataloged under.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5488.38,5578.0"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Or different, like when with Chinese names, they go from a different spelling from, like, you know, Wade Giles to Pin Yin, and then you have to -- the catalog changes, but what's on the book, so the catalog changes it twice, and what's on the book is, remains the same. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5579.44,5594.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e yeah, so, I'll just discover, or maybe it's been put under the ... the name that was on the book that looked like it that was where it was supposed to be and it really should have been relabeled. And sometimes -- just the other day I was showing David Kelly my-- our senior librarian, one that had been relabeled. It was a double name. It was like Clark Morrison or something. It was a compound last name and it was supposed to be shelved under Clark. And it had a label on it that said shelved under Clark, but it had still been shelved under Morrison. So sometimes even when we label them, they get put under the wrong place. Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5594.44,5638.48"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e and I know other ones like that would be in titles that have people's names, right? So like Jack London's MARTIN EDEN might be shelved under Eden, not Jack London, depending. And of course, a lot of those you and I have commiserated over a lot of book designers are less interest in utility than -- in function than in form. And so sometimes it's hard to read titles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5638.48,5661.24"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e We always hate the ones where they have it in some fancy cursive handwriting, and you can't read some of the letters very clearly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5661.82,5671.9"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Or series that are like series names that have a number of -- it's kind of hard to tell even what the title is because-- or Tom Clancy's books are being written by a number of other authors or, now I'm sure that gets confusing. But one thing I wanted to mention, we only have three minutes left, a couple of things that you've taught me that I think are, I would have never thought of it, is the fact that people... if you can't find it right where it's supposed to be, is to look the whole shelf up and down, which I don't, there's no logic to that. But I've actually found books that way and a lot of times it's not only because our people or people who work here might be misshelving. It's because they've been reshelved or pulled out, looked at and then put back by a patron. And I think another thing you taught me once, which I would have never thought of, is that books that are on the bottom shelf, if they're supposed to be on the bottom shelf, sometimes will be in the middle of the shelf because people will pull it out and then they don't want to bend down and they'll just shove it back. So there's all sorts of things that you would never think about. 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You start to realize all these things are true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5732.08,5743.44"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e But I mean, I find it fascinating because it's kind of a little bit of the map of human behavior and how systems can be defeated by things that you would never consider. Another thing you've told me about, which blows my mind is the way that Cutter numbers, which for the uninitiated is after the call number, there's another number, an alphanumeric code that usually represents a title or an author, and then how sometimes people will misread numbers for letters and letters for numbers. So like the 08s, well there's 08s to 09s, right? Sometimes that happens. But in terms of the Cutter number, sometimes people misread, right? So you have to be thinking of what could people be thinking when they see an 8 for a B or a 1 for an L or...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5743.48,5789.054"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, you just have to think in terms of if somebody was going to put this in the wrong place with all the best intentions, but they were putting it in the wrong place, where would they put it? Because sometimes it is just people shoving it back. They pull it out and they shove it back just carelessly into the wrong place. But other times it's people who think that they're putting it in the right place when they aren't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5789.76,5816.26"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJim Sherman:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, and we get people like visiting librarians who in our system in Fiction, we only do it by author's last name and title. So people will expect an author like Stephen King will have a whole bunch of, all their books will be together under Stephen King. But we only, we don't go to that next step. We just do the author's last name so that something like King will, Stephen King's books will be in the King's, and all of the Kings will be together under title so that Dave King's books will be in between Stephen King's books. And of course, people will come back and not only say, oh phew, I've fixed your -- everything was misshelved, I fixed it for you, and then of course we have to go back. So there is best intentions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665#t=5816.32,5860.06"},{"id":"https://lapl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2368/collection_resources/120621/file/225665/transcript/63428/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRobert Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, we have all these helpful shelvers who, what they think they've done is fixed our collection. Then we can't find anything. Then if we don't know about it, then the shelvers, our messenger clerks start shelving. They don't necessarily notice it right away and they start shelving things based on whatever book they happen to see first and it can really, it can really turn into a big mess after a while if we don't catch it. 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